Least Favorite Player at Each Position During Snyder Era

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I would say about Jeff George though, that I didn't ever really feel he was a bad person in my interactions with him. He was quiet and a bit of a loner, but not an a-hole by any means.

Bad combo for a QB.

I don't know that he was an a-hole, but he certainly didn't garner much respect from his teammates wherever he played.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Bad combo for a QB.

I don't know that he was an a-hole, but he certainly didn't garner much respect from his teammates wherever he played.

Terrible combo. The whole Snyder/Cerrato/Turner/Johnson/George ordeal was one of the worst things I've seen. It was like a soap opera. And honestly the one person who acted the most "mature" about it at all from my perspective was George

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Terrible combo. The whole Snyder/Cerrato/Turner/Johnson/George ordeal was one of the worst things I've seen. It was like a soap opera. And honestly the one person who acted the most "mature" about it at all from my perspective was George

Interesting. Well it wasn't his fault he was brought in. I'm sure in some respect it was awkward for him coming in with an already established guy here in Johnson.

It all started when Snyder fired Casserly. All downhill from there.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Terrible combo. The whole Snyder/Cerrato/Turner/Johnson/George ordeal was one of the worst things I've seen. It was like a soap opera. And honestly the one person who acted the most "mature" about it at all from my perspective was George

I never would have guessed that. His rep was more about being "immature" and selfcentered. I wish I knew some of the stories you know.

[Warren85Ellard]

Man, this is my kind of thread. We're going with a 4 receiver set here:

QB - Jeff George
RB - Trung Canidate
WR- Devin Thomas
WR - Brandon Llloyd
WR- Taylor Jacobs
WR - David Patten
C - Casey Rabach
LT - D'Anthony Batiste
LG - Chad Rinehart
RG -Jason Fabini
RT - Todd Wade

K - Jose Cortez
P - Durant Brooks
KR - Chad Morton
PR - ARE

DT - Albert Haynesworth
DT - Dana Stubblefield
DE - Bruce Smith
DE - Jeremy Jarmon
LB - Jeremiah Trotter
LB - Cody Glenn
LB - Dallas Sartz
CB - Mike Rumph
CB - Deion Sanders
SS - Adam Archuletta
FS - Mark Carrier

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Pierce partly because he trashed the organization after the Giants just outbid us. (We should have outbid the giants, but that's another issue). And partly just because he was a another chippy Giants player.

Lavar seemed happy going to Pro Bowls while the team stunk. But when Gibbs and Williams started coaching against freelancing and preferential treatment on the sidelines, suddenly Arrington wasn't happy. And our defense was better without him.

Add Lavar's trash-talking the coaches right before the playoffs in '05, and calling Gibbs a coward for leaving the team himself in '07 (in circumstances a lot different than L. "playbook" Arrington did)......

Im holding personality out of this and based my list on what they did or did not do for the team. Haynesworth would ofcourse encompass all of that. Pierce - arrington - portis - guys like that may have rubbed some the wrong way but there are countless others at those positions that fit the bill better imo. I remember them taking Lavar out on third down plays all the time that last year he was here. almost seemed out of spite - power trip - to me?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Im holding personality out of this and based my list on what they did or did not do for the team. Haynesworth would ofcourse encompass all of that. Pierce - arrington - portis - guys like that may have rubbed some the wrong way but there are countless others at those positions that fit the bill better imo. I remember them taking Lavar out on third down plays all the time that last year he was here. almost seemed out of spite - power trip - to me?

Lemar Marshall started playing in Lavar's spot, in'04, and we didn't miss a beat.

We had a top 5 defense in '05 without Lavar, too. His knee injury was a legitimate issue, but Lavar trashed the coaches first for holding him out, then trashed them for putting him back in too early. Add his wanting to freelance in William's gap defense, how could you work with that guy? The Giants spent big money on him, and got practically nothing from him. Except a copy of our playbook.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Lemar Marshall started playing in Lavar's spot, in'04, and we didn't miss a beat.

We had a top 5 defense in '05 without Lavar, too. His knee injury was a legitimate issue, but Lavar trashed the coaches first for holding him out, then trashed them for putting him back in too early. Add his wanting to freelance in William's gap defense, how could you work with that guy? The Giants spent big money on him, and got practically nothing from him. Except a copy of our playbook.

Fair enough. Cant put him on my list but fair enough.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Fair enough. Cant put him on my list but fair enough.

You explained your criteria well enough. I think all we disagree on is subjective at this point.

[MTK]

I wouldn't put LaVar on my least fav list, wouldn't put him on my fav list either. Overall I think he was a little overrated. Fantastic talent, but I never got the impression he was all in as far as studying the game and really putting in the work off the field to be the best that he could be.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wouldn't put LaVar on my least fav list, wouldn't put him on my fav list either. Overall I think he was a little overrated. Fantastic talent, but I never got the impression he was all in as far as studying the game and really putting in the work off the field to be the best that he could be.

Agreed. I think a lot of the negativism towards LA is the type where people look and hate on him because he didn't seem to care enough to maximize his production relative to his talents. That always triggers a little more emotionalism from a certain set of people. Which I think is somewhat understandable.

[53Fan]

^ Whatever happened to Jarmon? Does he even play anymore?

[los panda]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

^ Whatever happened to Jarmon? Does he even play anymore?

couldn't earn a spot on the broncos last season, done

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

You explained your criteria well enough. I think all we disagree on is subjective at this point.

So do you want to buy my Game worn Lavar jersey?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by punch it in

So do you want to buy my Game worn Lavar jersey?

Lol. I would love to have a Lavar jersey!