Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yep, Shanahan's great defenses. That was my main knock on him before the Redskins hired him and you can see he picked the wrong DC and nothing has changed or won't.

Same here, his last years in Denver, he was going through D coordinators on a regular basis. Unlike many, I had no problem going from the 4-3 to 3-4, nor did I have any expectation the transition would be easy or "quick". It was a fundamental change which, had it worked, would have been fine by me. [I personally think the 3-4 the more flexible set and, therefore, better set - particulary as the game evolves into more of a passing era.]

Unfortunately, Haslett just hasn't gotten it done. Sure, back-end talent has been an issue but, sorry, the D hasn't executed and has schemed well. I hope going forward, we get a creative D coord who find ways to stop the medium and big gains and who gets his D off the field -- other than by allowing the other team to score.

I am grateful to Shanny for exorcising the ghost of Vinny, for working through the draft, for not giving up on younger players and creating the idea that "fairness/performance" govern who plays. (Although, recently, it seems this last has been given less emphassis).

Barring a 180 degree turnaround by the D and parts of the O, it is time to say good bye to Shanny before all the good he has done is undone by a descent into losing and defeatism.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Same here, his last years in Denver, he was going through D coordinators on a regular basis. Unlike many, I had no problem going from the 4-3 to 3-4, nor did I have any expectation the transition would be easy or "quick". It was a fundamental change which, had it worked, would have been fine by me. [I personally think the 3-4 the more flexible set and, therefore, better set - particulary as the game evolves into more of a passing era.]

Unfortunately, Haslett just hasn't gotten it done. Sure, back-end talent has been an issue but, sorry, the D hasn't executed and has schemed well. I hope going forward, we get a creative D coord who find ways to stop the medium and big gains and who gets his D off the field -- other than by allowing the other team to score.

I am grateful to Shanny for exorcising the ghost of Vinny, for working through the draft, for not giving up on younger players and creating the idea that "fairness/performance" govern who plays. (Although, recently, it seems this last has been given less emphassis).

Barring a 180 degree turnaround by the D and parts of the O, it is time to say good bye to Shanny before all the good he has done is undone by a descent into losing and defeatism.

The toughest thing about the 3-4 IMO is that there are just not enough quality teams running it in college and therefore not enough quality nose tackles in the NFL comparatively. I do agree that if you have the pieces up front it is the better D.

[Starry Plough]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

The toughest thing about the 3-4 IMO is that there are just not enough quality teams running it in college and therefore not enough quality nose tackles in the NFL comparatively. I do agree that if you have the pieces up front it is the better D.

Addressing the focal point of any unit (in the case of the D, the NT position) is certainly the most logical way of moving forward, which is why I’ve come away from some drafts scratching my head.

2010 for example, we needed someone to replace Chris Samuels. We took Trent (as well as 5 other offensive players) and he’s working out well. He’s not having a pro-bowl year by any stretch, but then none of the team is. Bottom line, we needed a franchise blind-side protector and the pick therefore made sense.

2011 though, and they turned their attention to the D. Priority seemed to be on improving the pass rush and so Kerrigan was taken in the 1st, Jenkins in the 2nd. Now, don’t get me wrong, I like Ryan. I think he’s a solid player who could look even better if he had an elite rusher on the other side, but the point I’m making is in a 3-4, it all starts with the guy in the middle of the 3, and everything else comes next. In other words, we should have been looking towards the best NT available, the build around that vital cog. Phil Taylor for example shot up draft boards that year and was picked later in the first round. But instead we seem to make attempts at solving problems (I won’t discredit the effort btw, especially considering the draft is always reliant on chance as much as doing your homework), but it’s almost done in a hit and hope manner (definitely more on the defensive side of the ball) as much as anything and typifies why we haven’t made enough sustained progress in the 4 years of the transition to a 3-4 scheme as we maybe should IMO.

[NC_Skins]

Mike Shanahan’s poor defenses with the Redskins and Broncos speak volumes - The Washington Post


@ThomasBoswellWP

Here is rank in Pts Allowed of Haslett's last 12 teams as DC or coach ('13 back to '01): 30, 22, 21, 21, 31, 31, 28, 28, 27, 14, 26, 27. OMG


Fire this fucking guy already. God damnit Mike.




@fakeC_Russell

TEXT from Jim Haslett: "Tell Tom Boswell two things. 1) Screw off and 2) Stick to baseball."



(note the above tweet is entertainment, Jim didn't send that text)

[Chico23231]

Think my preference is strong defensive minded HC, with an aggressive minded OC who will build RG3 as a greater pocket passer.

[jamf]

My HC pick: Todd Bowles

[redskins5044]

Shanny should just leave after the season and enjoy retirement until he goes into the hall
Of fame.

[Paintrain]

I posted my vote for Lovie Smith although I know it's a long shot. I think he'd be a great coach to develop the defense and he's low drama as well. Offensively, as someone said earlier, we've got the pieces in place to be dynamic so we don't need a mastermind on that side of the ball. I'd prefer someone whose philosophy is similar to the scheme Shanahan built the team around so there wouldn't have to be dramatic turnover on that side of the ball.

Ray Horton, Sean McDermott John Pagano and Perry Fewell are also on my radar because I want the next coach to be defensive minded.

If we go offensive minded, I like Ken Wisenhunt.

[Bucket]

Not surprised Shanahan is in the lead here. Similar poll is on Extremeskins, and he's winning there too.

I applaud you Warpath.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Not surprised Shanahan is in the lead here. Similar poll is on Extremeskins, and he's winning there too.

I applaud you Warpath.

Yeah I found that pretty interesting. Is it a case of they just don't want change or they really think he's the best man for the job?

[Fiversons]

Thanks for the approval Warpath... Like most, longtime listener, first time caller... With that said, I say Dan should honor the contract he gave Mike. I would not welcome a contract extension, and I'm not sure if Mike would stay without one. If he did accept that offer, then I still say this is the best course of action...

Thanks again for the account

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah I found that pretty interesting. Is it a case of they just don't want change or they really think he's the best man for the job?

Could have a lot to do with the mindset of the community these days. We've seen so much change that maybe we want to see what a bit of structure would look like? That's my only theory.

Personally, anything can happen in a year. So, I just want to see what Mike would do in his final year knowing this is the end of the line. With some money to spend, RG3 has an offseason working on the offense and with his WR's, etc.

But

I really don't see how you can keep Haslett.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Not surprised Shanahan is in the lead here. Similar poll is on Extremeskins, and he's winning there too.

I applaud you Warpath.

30% of the Warpath thinks a guy winning 30% of his games this year should be retained. That seems in line with reality.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

30% of the Warpath thinks a guy winning 30% of his games this year should be retained. That seems in line with reality.

If the Redskins had been 10-0 there wouldn't have been a poll, so nobody (0%) would have voted for him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

If the Redskins had been 10-0 there wouldn't have been a poll, so nobody (0%) would have voted for him.

Not that you needed validation, but this is true.