Fred Davis Bye Bye

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

This.

Belichick wins every year with no-names because he develops talent. We need to follow suit.

Belichick wins every year because he has Tom Brady.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Belichick wins every year because he has Tom Brady.

I could use Brady as an example of my point: low-round talent that Belichick has developed. But IMO even if we set that argument aside, the Pats win because of more than just Brady. Belichick just seems to get the most out of his roster top to bottom, including on defense.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

The problem is the Redskins are not patient with young players.

We draft players to let them go. we have focused on the next free agent that we brought in instead of development and depth.

Well, out of the 2008-2009 players we let go, I think only Rinehart and Tryon provided any decent depth to other teams, even then only briefly (Tryon 1 yr Colts 1 yr Giants), Rinehart Chargers 2013). Devin Thomas made a couple good ST plays for the Giants 1 yr. AFAIK, that's it.

So I don't think those players we let go have shown much use for development or quality depth (like Jackson). Out of those two drafts, while most of the players provided depth while they were briefly here (like Horton), Jackson (2008) and Orakpo (2009) are the only non-bust picks there, that I see.

[over the mountain]

... and orakpo was a no-brainer if he fell to us, which he did.

im interested to see what these guys can do. hopefully they can cont to add long term pieces to the decent young core we have now.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Sounds like the guy has a serious problem with weed, probably should seek some help.

I dont think its the most serious problem in the world - alcohol, or hard drugs would be worse. But man to dedicate your life to your craft and make it all the way to the nfl just to throw it away for a friggin weed high ? Wow. Real head scratcher. Must be some really good shit. I just dont understand why u cant wait till u retire. Whats the avg career span? He would probably still be in his 30's at the end. Make your millions and than u can move to jamaica or amsterdam or hell even colorado.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I dont think its the most serious problem in the world - alcohol, or hard drugs would be worse. But man to dedicate your life to your craft and make it all the way to the nfl just to throw it away for a friggin weed high ? Wow. Real head scratcher. Must be some really good shit. I just dont understand why u cant wait till u retire. Whats the avg career span? He would probably still be in his 30's at the end. Make your millions and than u can move to jamaica or amsterdam or hell even colorado.

Some NFL folks use weed for its pain- and stress-reducing properties, so they wouldn't want to wait until they retire.

At least at first it is not random testing, there's a defined window of time during which testing happens. So what I don't understand is why he couldn't chill for a few weeks until the testers had finished their job. That's what many NFLers do.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Some NFL folks use weed for its pain- and stress-reducing properties, so they wouldn't want to wait until they retire.

At least at first it is not random testing, there's a defined window of time during which testing happens. So what I don't understand is why he couldn't chill for a few weeks until the testers had finished their job. That's what many NFLers do.

..........Soooo true
I have found it to be quite beneficial when watching the B & G this season.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Hog1

..........Soooo true
I have found it to be quite beneficial when watching the B & G this season.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Some NFL folks use weed for its pain- and stress-reducing properties, so they wouldn't want to wait until they retire.

At least at first it is not random testing, there's a defined window of time during which testing happens. So what I don't understand is why he couldn't chill for a few weeks until the testers had finished their job. That's what many NFLers do.

Fred was already in the NFL drug program, which means he was subject to random testing throughout the year.

If you aren't in the program, there is a window in April May I think where you know you are subject to being tested.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Fred was already in the NFL drug program, which means he was subject to random testing throughout the year.

If you aren't in the program, there is a window in April May I think where you know you are subject to being tested.

That's what I meant by "at first." Yeah, once you are in the program things get tougher.

[Stacks42]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Fred was already in the NFL drug program, which means he was subject to random testing throughout the year.

If you aren't in the program, there is a window in April May I think where you know you are subject to being tested.

Didn't FD and TW both get busted during the lockout? I don't even think the first positive test should have applied since they were "unemployed" at the time. Still he is an idiot! My friends used to sell large amounts to the Skins secondary (some of whom are in the superbowl this weekend) and I could never understand it. Why smoke when you are in a speed/skill position, especially since the career window is so small?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

Didn't FD and TW both get busted during the lockout? I don't even think the first positive test should have applied since they were "unemployed" at the time. Still he is an idiot! My friends used to sell large amounts to the Skins secondary (some of whom are in the superbowl this weekend) and I could never understand it. Why smoke when you are in a speed/skill position, especially since the career window is so small?

The salary cap "violations" were also during an uncapped year. This doesn't matter to the league, especially when the Redskins are involved.

Originally Posted by Lotus

Some NFL folks use weed for its pain- and stress-reducing properties, so they wouldn't want to wait until they retire.

At least at first it is not random testing, there's a defined window of time during which testing happens. So what I don't understand is why he couldn't chill for a few weeks until the testers had finished their job. That's what many NFLers do.

They can afford doctors and legitimate pain remedies that won't give them lung cancer on top of the legal issues.

That's no excuse.

[Alvin Walton]

This thread makes me want to eat Fruit Loops right out of the box.

[over the mountain]

i thought sleepy and silverback got punished bc they both tested positive after the NFL gave players a grace period to stop smoking and clear out their piss.

they were 2 of only 3 in the league that couldnt stop smoking weed after the CBA was signed.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Weed causes Lung Cancer? Since when? I don't remember that being on the box.