Giants Game Negatives

[JoeRedskin]

It was an ass-kicking in every way.

My hope is that the game in Philly was such a street-fight that it left them drained. Not saying it as an excuse or a belief that they are particular good but just that this was, hopefully, a not particularly good team having a really bad day.

Really, that is the extent of my hope - that we are only a not particularly good team.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

It was an ass-kicking in every way.



My hope is that the game in Philly was such a street-fight that it left them drained. Not saying it as an excuse or a belief that they are particular good but just that this was, hopefully, a not particularly good team having a really bad day.



Really, that is the extent of my hope - that we are only a not particularly good team.

Lmao. As im reading your post I was thinking..."so your hope is we are not particularily good". Your last statement would be a great sig.
Edit: im going to think "we are not particularly a good team "from now on. Its just better than being a shit show.

[Hog1]

I hope Jay can make good use of the info gleaned from this game....players, coaches, BU's, etc
Beyond that, it was a...tragedy I will morn for at least a few days...and pints

[RFKRat]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I hope Jay can make good use of the info gleaned from this game....players, coaches, BU's, etc
Beyond that, it was a...tragedy I will morn for at least a few days...and pints

That's another thing that bugs the hell out of me though. Gruden's comments after the game about how this was a "wakeup call". What? That's a perfect example of the delusional arrogance that has seeped into every corner of this franchise, from the owner to the coaches to the players and sadly to a chunk of the fan base as well. And certainly the local media.

Coach, you were 1-2 coming into the game...what did you need a freaking wake up call for? Is the sky in your world purple and were the Redskins 3-0 in some bizarre fantasy reality? You beat Jacksonville...a pathetic excuse for an NFL franchise. That's it. That was this franchise's ONE measly win going back almost a calendar year. Most local high school teams would probably look like world beaters against Jacksonville.

Arrrrrrrrrrgh.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by RFKRat

That's another thing that bugs the hell out of me though. Gruden's comments after the game about how this was a "wakeup call". What? That's a perfect example of the delusional arrogance that has seeped into every corner of this franchise, from the owner to the coaches to the players and sadly to a chunk of the fan base as well. And certainly the local media.

Coach, you were 1-2 coming into the game...what did you need a freaking wake up call for? Is the sky in your world purple and were the Redskins 3-0 in some bizarre fantasy reality? You beat Jacksonville...a pathetic excuse for an NFL franchise. That's it. That was this franchise's ONE measly win going back almost a calendar year. Most local high school teams would probably look like world beaters against Jacksonville.

Arrrrrrrrrrgh.

And people argue we are not in the same class as the JAX, CLE and OAK of the world. LOL!!!!!!

Shit at this point we are insulting them by saying we are in the same class as them.

I swear every day the purple looks better.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mredskins

And people argue we are not in the same class as the JAX, CLE and OAK of the world. LOL!!!!!!

Shit at this point we are insulting them by saying we are in the same class as them.

I swear every day the purple looks better.

I think we all at some point overvalue are own players. That's the nature of fans in general. We have to remember this is a 3 win team. We're better than Jacksonville, but we're probably not better than Cleveland.

[MTK]

What an effing debacle. I turned it off after captain int threw his 4th. Looks like we're heading toward yet another long season.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

What an effing debacle. I turned it off after captain int threw his 4th. Looks like we're heading toward yet another long season.

Not a bad season though, just not a "particularly good season. "
Thanks JR!

[Defensewins]

We blew $11million of our cap space on Orakpo, when we had desperate needs at safety and right tackle. That was a terrible mistake of our FO. Not the end of the world though.

[over the mountain]

1. we should have upgraded RT

2. we should have upgraded FS

3. lauvaua - still too early but people questioned the signing and his play (i know he didnt play last night)

4. the criticism that cousins just throws the ball at a receiver (aka chucking it up) when under pressure was on full display last night

5. penalties are killing us. im guessing we will be top 3 after week 4.

6. haslett banked on bringing pressure so his weak secondary wont be exposed ..... where is the pressure haslett?

7. ryan clark's "leadership" was lacking on the field last night

8. the team was unprepared and had a hang over from the eagles game

does gruden change things up? does he work the players harder?

im interested to see how gruden handles his first stretch of turmoil.

this is not the end of the world. we all expected 8-8 or worse. we will win some games going forward. i fully expect us to go 1-1 against the seahawks and cardinals. but the play of some players are hard to watch (rak, polumbus, secondary).

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

1. we should have upgraded RT

2. we should have upgraded FS

3. lauvaua - still too early but people questioned the signing and his play (i know he didnt play last night)

4. the criticism that cousins just throws the ball at a receiver (aka chucking it up) when under pressure was on full display last night

5. penalties are killing us. im guessing we will be top 3 after week 4.

6. haslett banked on bringing pressure so his weak secondary wont be exposed ..... where is the pressure haslett?

7. ryan clark's "leadership" was lacking on the field last night

8. the team was unprepared and had a hang over from the eagles game

does gruden change things up? does he work the players harder?

im interested to see how gruden handles his first stretch of turmoil.

this is not the end of the world. we all expected 8-8 or worse. we will win some games going forward. i fully expect us to go 1-1 against the seahawks and cardinals. but the play of some players are hard to watch (rak, polumbus, secondary).

Moses was drafted for the RT, takes times

Philip Thomas should be promoted from the PS, anyone know how his foot is?

Haslett gots to go!! Promote Baker to DC, this clown has had 5/6 years with the same results. Enough is enough.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I like Orakpo, but let him walk, he is not worth what he is going to ask for. Let Murphy start next year. 2nd round picks should be starters in year 2 anyways. We need a #1 cornerback. After week 4 that's what I'd take in round 1. Hall/Amerson/Breeland would be ok as 2-4.

We need to draft/sign 2 new starting safeties. Basically we need a complete overhaul in the secondary.

For the love of all things good in the world cut Polumbus this week and let Compton or Moses start

Perry Riley needs to be replaced. He is just an absolute statue in pass coverage.

And most importantly we need RG3 to play a full 16 games un 2015. I think he is the answer still, but gruden needs to be able to find out for sure if he is our franchise QB.

[Coff]

Last night’s game didn’t show Redskins fans anything they shouldn’t have already known. We’re a terrible team. For the most part, we’ve been a terrible team for over two decades. There have been few bright spots, among them 2012. So one would naturally think, well, let’s look at that bright spot and build on it. Well, the biggest bright spot was RGIII, and so many of us don’t want the Redskins to build on that. Really? After two decades of sucking, we can’t wait a few more years while a young QB develops?

My recommendation to the FO (and the fans) would be this: it’s going to take a while to turn things around, but at least we have things we can build on: a talented receiver crew, strong TEs, a pro-bowl LT. Everything else is basically garbage. Okay, so we work on building that up, on developing guys like Amerson and Breeland, bringing in a new DC, allowing a rookie HC to take his lumps. We need to identify a core strength, build on that, and most importantly have patience. I posted in the pregame thread that this Giant game scared me. Why should any of us be surprised that a perennial contender like the Giants embarrassed a perennial loser like the Redskins? Why did we think we were so far removed from the 3-13 team we were 9 months ago? Why, after more than two decades of sucking, are we constantly shocked when a single offseason didn’t turn us into a dynasty in the waiting? It’s this loss of perspective and terrible impatience that has often plagued our front office, but has I believe more recently been the reasoning behind those wanting Cousins over RGIII.

It’s no guarantee that RGIII will be great. But demanding a complete overhaul after every bad season is not going to solve any of our problems. And our problem isn’t QB. It’s the defense, it’s the offensive line, it’s the lack of depth across the roster. Truly turning around this team and making it good will take time and patience. We’re going to have to expect and endure a lot more failure and have faith that the core of guys we have now can be built around. And I think it can happen.

[punch it in]

If we wait a few years to develope Griff will Trent still be a pro bowl caliber LT? Will Jackson and Garcon still have their speed? We know the shelf life on RB's so will Almo still be great? IF and thats a big IF Griff can stay healthy we dont have a few years. We need him or KC or whoever to be good next year or all these pieces we have will be bent and broken.

[Evilgrin]

Gruden needs to clean out the roster, too many players and coaches that don't want to fight every down.