Skins vs. Cards Positives + Negatives

punch it in · 10-13-2014, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

The Cult of Kirk certainly has been quieted. Just a few weeks ago people were arguing that KC is our QB of the future.

Yeah well after the jags and birds game there was obviously reason to believe so. Good games = hope. Horrible games = no hope. Seems fairly logical from where I stand. Problem is that Griff has two things that make you wonder if he is the guy. His health and his performance. Unfortunately at this point neither of those is a sure thing. At this point the season is over and Colt winning a game or two does nothing for me, it just means we move back a spot or two in the draft.

sdskinsfan2001 · 10-13-2014, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I really hope no one starts talking about trading KC for a second rounder or something insane. With the right team he might be an effective game manager but a team with those pieces could probably get a KC type without trading away draft picks.

I'd take anything between the 4th and 6th rounds for Cousins. Let McCoy be the backup next year, use the 7th round pick on a QB to groom as the backup QB.

Use the pick we get in the trade to use to build depth at any one of the unlimited holes on this team.

*there is no way in hell any team is offering higher than a 4th rounder.

P.s. I liked cousins coming out of the draft even before we got rgiii. I was mistaken.

SFREDSKIN · 10-13-2014, 12:46 PM

I would bring back Casserly back as GM, promote BA to VP.

skinsguy · 10-13-2014, 01:34 PM

1) Kirk Cousins is who SmootSmack thought he was. He just fooled the rest of us!
2) I'd rather see Colt McCoy at this point. But honestly, I'm about ready to tune out until RGIII is back on the field.
3) 20 years of losing - and Dan Snyder has owned the team for about 15 of those years. If you can't figure it out within 15-20 years, you have no business being in the football business.
4) I hate the gold pants. Hate them! Bring back the burgundy pants and white tops. The great Redskins teams I knew growing up wore those unis week in and week out.
5) I like lists!
6) This team won't be winners until we have a competent front office. From the owner down to the position coaches. I'm not saying we have the wrong folks in every position, but we have the wrong folks in the front office. Keep Bruce as a money/contract man and nothing else.
7) Move the team out of Maryland. Let Maryland have its Ravens - the Redskins don't belong in Maryland.
8) I used to be so optimistic to the point of it being sickening. Not anymore. I see no light at the end of the tunnel unless some major changes happen within the next season or two. I mean something dramatic.
9)I wished I had access to every game the Redskins played during the 1980's. I'd rather watch those games on Sunday in place of what the product gives us nowadays. I honestly think even the games I'd watch them lose would be better quality effort than what I see nowadays.
10) I'm not sure what else to say that hasn't already be said. I just couldn't end on an odd number.

htownskinfan · 10-13-2014, 09:50 AM

The season is over so there's no sense sticking McCoy in there he might win a couple of games but he's not the future.
Teams and fans are too quick to give up on quarterbacks nowadays and don't want to give them any time to develop.
RG3 had all of last year to try to develop to a pocket passer but everybody is saying he needs more time to be patient.
Well Kirk has started four games this year and everybody's already saying get him out of there.
well Kirk needs time to develop just like anybody else he needs to stay in the lineup and take his lumps

DirtBagZ · 10-13-2014, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

The season is over so there's no sense sticking McCoy in there he might win a couple of games but he's not the future.
Teams and fans are too quick to give up on quarterbacks nowadays and don't want to give them any time to develop.
RG3 had all of last year to try to develop to a pocket passer but everybody is saying he needs more time to be patient.
Well Kirk has started four games this year and everybody's already saying get him out of there.
well Kirk needs time to develop just like anybody else he needs to stay in the lineup and take his lumps

Sorry, but for the guy who supposedly has the 'better pocket presence' Kirk's numbers suck. Too many INTs, only one win as a starter, Griffin has faults but he is not the one man INT machine that is Cousins, case closed.

Case in point Carson Palmer somehow, completes a pass with at least two Redskins d-linemen. Cosins, either goes limp and gets slammed like a rag doll, or throws a horrible pick. If Griffin cannot come back, we may not win another game.

htownskinfan · 10-13-2014, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtBagZ

Sorry, but for the guy who supposedly has the 'better pocket presence' Kirk's numbers suck. Too many INTs, only one win as a starter, Griffin has faults but he is not the one man INT machine that is Cousins, case closed.

Case in point Carson Palmer somehow, completes a pass with at least two Redskins d-linemen. Cosins, either goes limp and gets slammed like a rag doll, or throws a horrible pick. If Griffin cannot come back, we may not win another game.

Agree with everything you're saying,when RG3 is ready to come back go ahead and stick him in there,but i do not believe you stick mccoy in over Cousins
Let Cousins take his lumps

SmootSmack · 10-13-2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

The season is over so there's no sense sticking McCoy in there he might win a couple of games but he's not the future.
Teams and fans are too quick to give up on quarterbacks nowadays and don't want to give them any time to develop.
RG3 had all of last year to try to develop to a pocket passer but everybody is saying he needs more time to be patient.
Well Kirk has started four games this year and everybody's already saying get him out of there.
well Kirk needs time to develop just like anybody else he needs to stay in the lineup and take his lumps

Kirk Cousins is regressing. He's got no "stage presence" at all

htownskinfan · 10-13-2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Kirk Cousins is regressing. He's got no "stage presence" at all

So whats your point?
RG3 regressed also did he not?
You want Mccoy in there also?

SmootSmack · 10-13-2014, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

So whats your point?
RG3 regressed also did he not?
You want Mccoy in there also?