Zone blocking

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

By the way, who would have thought a thread named "Zone blocking" would garner more than 75 posts? LOL

And nothing on the last 6 pages has anything to do with 'zone blocking'!

[Phinehas]

You act as if I go to a game and don't cheer my team on. I saw guys with 'skins Jerseys at the Pittsburgh game just sitting there. I was standing and yelling. I took a lot of shit from the fans around me (Pittsburgh ones of course) but you know what, they also gave me a lot of credit. We talked a lot.

While fanaticism does imply irrational behavior, including standing up and screaming your lungs out (can you imagine the stares you'd get for acting that way in the grocery store?), I think that the word more strongly connotates irrational belief. So, while cheering is good, I think it is arguable that true fanatics do indeed demonstrate a degree of unrelenting optimism. Realism and fanaticism just don't seem to fit well together. When we talk about fanatics, we are implying that, to some extent, reality has been left behind. Otherwise, we'd use a different word. A supporter may cheer at games, but a fanatic, in the true sense of the word, BELIEVES unrelentingly, and often does so irrationaly.

--Phin the Fan

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yup, you can't have FAN without fanticism.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Think we might have deviated from the subject a tad? LOL

[Redskins_P]

It went from Zone blocking to Daseal saying to himself "it's me against the world" ala Tupac.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I think people demonized him more than we demonized Coles...

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I think people demonized him more than we demonized Coles...

In fairness though, If we start demonizing Coles again, Daseal is just going to come to his defense, and the cycle begins anew.........So we're really just skipping the ripping the Coles portion when you think about it.

[Phinehas]

Hey, I never intended to demonize anyone! I just wanted to point out that implying unrelentingly optimism from fanaticism isn't nearly as unreasonable as his sig line would have you believe.

--Phin the Fan

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by Phinehas

Hey, I never intended to demonize anyone! I just wanted to point out that implying unrelentingly optimism from fanaticism isn't nearly as unreasonable as his sig line would have you believe.

--Phin the Fan

Don't worry Phin........we're just messing around. I'm with you..........and Daseal has to have some pretty think skin by now.

By the way, I love the fan/fanaticism discussion. Very good point of view.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

The cycle begins anew when people spout random comments. I'll say it's a select few and I won't mention names but it's not you or Phinehas. In fact, I wouldn't say it's ANY of the prolific posters.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

The cycle begins anew when people spout random comments. I'll say it's a select few and I won't mention names but it's not you or Phinehas. In fact, I wouldn't say it's ANY of the prolific posters.

:headbange Are you calling me a prolific poster? In the words of the great Homer Simpson: WHOOO HOO!

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I think it was Daseal or Gmanc and I had a conversation about prolific posters one time and even though some might not have as many posts, it seems they are on their way and always have something thoughtful to say. If not thoughtful, VERY entertaining!

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I think it was Daseal or Gmanc and I had a conversation about prolific posters one time and even though some might not have as many posts, it seems they are on their way and always have something thoughtful to say. If not thoughtful, VERY entertaining!

You mean like "SkinzDomin8"? LOL .......... question 3..........LOL

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Maaaaaaaaaaaybe..? And just the people who seem like kids getting home from middle school. Like I said, I won't name any names and those people are few and far between, but it seems like they incite a lot of problems.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Daseal

First off, I apologize for taking your childhood.

Apology accepted, now give me back my Optimus Prime!!

Originally Posted by Daseal

So you mean you guys all jumped on the bandwagon in the 80s and because I think Gibbs system have problems but I'm still a die hard fan I'm not allowed on it? How ironic.

That's not what I meant at all. What I meant was for many of us the best years of our lives when it pertains to the Redskins were during the first Gibbs' era. For over a decade, we bitched and moaned that "oh, if only we had Gibbs back" Well now we do and we (and I'm not just talking about you Daseal) are like "WTF Gibbs? I thought you were the shit!" It's like Boswell wrote, "Why bring him back if we're not going to do it his way?"

Personally I feel as though last season, particularly the first half, was a chance for Gibbs to reacclimate himself to coaching in the NFL (things like the shorter playclock, Instant replay, etc) and also to evaluate his personnel. This is one reason why I believe that Brunell started longer than many felt he should because he was basically playing the role of offensive caretaker on the field while Gibbs adapted. See Gibbs had the luxury of doing something that previous coaches didn't because no way would Snyder have fired Gibbs after one season. So Gibbs could sit back and say let me use year one to evaluate my talent and get reacclimated to the league.

Originally Posted by Daseal

What he did in his first era was impressive, and that can never be taken from him. However, that doesn’t automatically make him a winner in this era.

It should give him some benefit of the doubt though right?

Originally Posted by Dasea

In closing, let my give an abridged version of what I think of Gibbs”
His offense needs work, Schemes especially, playcalling needs to be less predictable, May need a offensive coordinator is he doesn’t get the offense going this year or at least by next, will bring the skins to a winning season and probably the playoffs before leaving, Is the best motivator out there. I feel that his legacy from the 80’s and his current state should be viewed as separate. Not completely separate, but this isn’t just a continuation. It’s not like after a super bowl he had a losing season. He took over a decade off, and that takes adjustment. His offense has problems now, but he will win eventually.

Didn't he bring in Bill Musgrave to be the offensive coordinator? Or is he just QB coach? I'm not sure the playcalling needs to be less predictable. I don't know the particular stats but I do recall several times last year that the team marched downfield but then got stopped by mental mistakes, such as penalties. I know that Wilbon said that defenses knew what was coming, but so what. You knew Stockton and Malone would run the pick and roll for the Jazz, couldn't stop them. You knew the Redskins would run Heavy Jumbo near the goal line back in the day, couldn't stop it. I think more often than not, teams have a pretty good idea of what to expect from the opposing offense.