Looking ahead to the Eagles

[RedskinJake]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Stop with the whole strawman bs... No one has predicted a SB trip this year. I said we would be lucky to get to 8 wins prior to the season. However, when we show success at power running, then go away from that on a Thursday night game, I dont feel bad about saying it was bad scheming going into a Thursday night game. We completely rewrote what we did the first two games going into a short week. That is beyond stupid.

But you guys seem to think a 7,8 win team is going to look awesome every game. Of course they look mediocre. They are. That's not a coaching issue, that's a roster issue. That's the result of almost 20 years of mismanagement in the FO. Get off your high horses and be realistic. SM is fixing the roster but it's going to take a few seasons. Jay has to scheme to the roster as it is and honestly I think he's done a reasonable job. I didn't say a great job. But you can't expect him to wake up one morning 15 games into being a head coach and expect perfection. You want a veteran, get one, but we hired a first time guy, manage your expectations this year. These guys are trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit and I just want it to taste more like chicken salad than shit for once..

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by RedskinJake

But you guys seem to think a 7,8 win team is going to look awesome every game. Of course they look mediocre. They are. That's not a coaching issue, that's a roster issue. That's the result of almost 20 years of mismanagement in the FO. Get off your high horses and be realistic. SM is fixing the roster but it's going to take a few seasons. Jay has to scheme to the roster as it is and honestly I think he's done a reasonable job. I didn't say a great job. But you can't expect him to wake up one morning 15 games into being a head coach and expect perfection. You want a veteran, get one, but we hired a first time guy, manage your expectations this year. These guys are trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit and I just want it to taste more like chicken salad than shit for once..

Just to clarify...

Im on a high horse because I dont buy into your strawman? Or just that I disagree with you is why im on a high horse?

You have made it clear that you think anyone that doesnt agree with you is somehow flawed. Im not the one on the high horse. If someone wants to disagree with me, let them. Im not here to stop them from disagreeing with me. Doesnt mean I cant put out an opinion and people can disagree with me if they want. You already accused me of trying to start an argument earlier and now you are accusing me of being arrogant because I dont agree with you.

Yes, I think rewriting the game plan from the first two games going into a Thursday game was stupid. Deal with it. If you want to debate that, then lets do it. You obviously want to debate this as you keep responding. But stop trying to mandate my opinion for me or claiming im arrogant when I dont immediately change my opinion to match yours. If you cant handle disagreement, then being online is the wrong place for you.

You think a game plan where KC passes 50 times a game is good. I do not, especially going into a short week.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by RedskinJake

...These guys who are complaining about coaching like we'd be superbowl bound if only we had Tom Coughlin as a head coach drive me nuts...

Rrrrriggghhhhtttt. That's exactly what I was saying. Superbowl Baby!

.....we'll be there but don't throw out the positives we've seen and start blaming the coaches.. This is a good start, be excited about it..

Pointing out coaching mistakes, that EVERY team, even GOOD teams can have in no way means I'm throwing out the positives or not being excited. In fact I'm very excited about our OL and run game and defense (and Rashard Ross). You know what I'm not excited about? Losing. Especially losing winnable games.

Pointing out that the run game was our strength and should be the focal point of the offense is simply an objective observation. Same with playing inadequate players at punt protector when there are superior players avaiable on the roster, same with PR/KR, same with Roberts on 3rd down same with Carrier/Reed blocking DEs 1-on-1. I'm sorry if discussing these coaching mistakes makes you uncomfortable and forced to resort to hyperbole/strawmen.

[OmahaRedskins]

In the NFL, the home team wins about 57% of the time. On Thursday night games, this goes up to 60%. When you are a flawed team, on the road, on Thursday night, you will lose.

[kingj]

It does eventually get down to the players but Gruden is a subpar head coach in over his head.

[skinsfan69]

By my count we're down 9 players? Maybe 10? ..Jackson, SL, Galette, Nacho, Hall, Riley, Paulsen, Heyward, Paul...maybe Culliver. An already below average team can not overcome that.

i'm taking a guess that either Paul or Heyward would have been in there on punt protection over the rookie.

[Chico23231]

This is a game we should win. Kinda surprised by folks who say otherwise, I guess they haven't seen the Eagles play. Injuries aren't an excuse in this league...skins at home, wet weather, against a division rival who is struggling on offense and defense...folks I expect Jay gruden to lead this team to a win....and long week to prepare too? Eagles play really gud special teams we have to be ready, but we should with good coaching.

Looking for the w

[sdskinsfan2001]

Please never put Georgia in the top 10 unless they are at least 10-0. That team can never win the big game. Getting merked at home by a solid but not great Bama team.

If we lose to Philly our season is over for playoffs, don't see us beating Atlanta and 1-4 is no bueno. And no I didn't expect playoffs, just mentioning it. I was hoping for 8-8. I'd settle for 7-9. For some reason 6-10 and 7-9 seems like such a HUGE difference. Just get to at least 7 wins please. 3 win increase from last year is solid improvement.

[Zorny]

This is the game the wheels fall off...Eagles give us a beat down and the team can't recover the rest of the season... 35-10 Eagles.

[rocnrik]

SKINS 28 filly 17 !

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'll tell you one thing that WON'T happen: one team will not win without the other one sucking major balls. If we win, it's because the Eagles self-destruct and vice versa. Would be nice to watch two teams slug it out and talent trump crazy-shit-happening-because-that's-Redskins-football and the best team come out on top.

I think we win if we can prevent Sam Bradford from having a "get back on track" game. We're good for getting people in a rhythm. Defense is still impressing me, but not quite good enough yet.

Can't predict a score, but if we have NO fuck-ups (INTs, lost fumbles, ST miscues) I think we win. Seems like it shouldn't be a ton to ask.

[CRedskinsRule]

In my opinion we have better lines on both sides of the ball. I just don't trust we can not beat ourselves.

It may be a very ugly game.

Sent from my S6 Edge

[30gut]

Finally...the 3rd and 2 pass call--

I don't have a problem with the call itself. The concept and play design was sound just poorly executed. But that is the risk you take with a pass play in that situation. More has to go right for a pass play to work then a run play. There are reasons why passing is lower efficiency then running, passing failure rates are MUCH higher then runs.

And early in the game for a team that fancies itself a run team that was an opportunity to establish the run game.

Further historically the fact remains that we were better running the ball on 3rd and 2 or less then we are passing the ball; that was a fact last year. Now fast forward to this year. We have been improved OL and OL coach. And we were able to run the ball effectively against the Rams D and 8 man front and the Rams DL is better then the Giants. So for me the high efficiency play is to run the ball and we didn't and it failed.

[30gut]

It's was a low efficiency play call that could possibly have a higher yield then a run. But that 1st 3rd and 2 situation call more for efficiency then big yards.

To each theirs....

Anyhow cheers to a win today!