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Old 10-13-2015, 09:47 AM   #1
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He looks like he's doing 2 positions at once, maybe that's why Moses is looking good. What a beast.
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He looks like he's doing 2 positions at once, maybe that's why Moses is looking good. What a beast.
I dare say it's Litchenessitgieriietiger that needs a look in the off-season. Reading how good he is at making line calls but how poorly he's been graded each week. If we get pressure it IS often up the gut.
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I dare say it's Litchenessitgieriietiger that needs a look in the off-season. Reading how good he is at making line calls but how poorly he's been graded each week. If we get pressure it IS often up the gut.
We need a bigger, stronger center in the mold of Mack, Frederick, and Mangold but center is not at the top of our list of needs, IMO.
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Old 10-13-2015, 01:08 PM   #4
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I dare say it's Litchenessitgieriietiger that needs a look in the off-season. Reading how good he is at making line calls but how poorly he's been graded each week. If we get pressure it IS often up the gut.

Couldnt agree more. Everytime the floodgates open it is rite up the middle. We need to draft a C this offseason. Its very high up there on my team needs list.
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Old 10-13-2015, 04:17 PM   #5
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Couldnt agree more. Everytime the floodgates open it is rite up the middle. We need to draft a C this offseason. Its very high up there on my team needs list.
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I think we have 8 picks as of now for 2016 so this is very do able and I think with Scot this would put us in very good shape and leaves him a few picks to play with as well.
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Old 10-13-2015, 08:51 AM   #6
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with all the injuries its time to be able to suit up all 53 on game day. the NFL is so concerned with the level of competition yet teams are being devastated with injuries ..i don't get this at all..except GREED has something to do with it..
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with all the injuries its time to be able to suit up all 53 on game day. the NFL is so concerned with the level of competition yet teams are being devastated with injuries ..i don't get this at all..except GREED has something to do with it..
I read somewhere (ESPN I think) that the inactive rule is actually intended to equalize the game. A team that has 53 players healthy has a competitive advantage over those that (like us) have lots of players injured. By having inactives, it forces teams to choose their depth carefully and lessens the impact of multiple injuries.

I don't remember the inactive list this past week but were there any who we needed to step in at game time but couldn't?

Perhaps they should tweek it some so inactives could be designated "emergency players" and, like emergency QB's, the players they come in for could not go back in the game.
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I read somewhere (ESPN I think) that the inactive rule is actually intended to equalize the game. A team that has 53 players healthy has a competitive advantage over those that (like us) have lots of players injured. By having inactives, it forces teams to choose their depth carefully and lessens the impact of multiple injuries.

I don't remember the inactive list this past week but were there any who we needed to step in at game time but couldn't?

Perhaps they should tweek it some so inactives could be designated "emergency players" and, like emergency QB's, the players they come in for could not go back in the game.
That's exactly what the rule is for, and it does make sense - imagine the Patriots having 53 healthy players while we had 45, the screams of unfairness would shut this board down. I do think your tweek would be a good one also.
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Im a Cousins fan but the 2 interceptions were on him to varying degrees. i didnt expect this level of inaccuracy from him. the inside post route was his money route but he seems to be off time, throwing it behind guys. i dont think he is throwing it late, just not leading guys enough.

with desean out, that intermediate middle area is not cleared out like it used to be. tighter windows but cousins has to improve his mid passing game. i did not expect this coming into week 1.

1st int - inaccurate ball, unfortunate bounce, nothing more to it imo.

2nd int - cousins makes a blind throw. Im guessing pre-snap he reads pressure and reads Grant as his hot route. But .... post-snap, cousins just throws it out there. i dont think he got to read the play post snap, i dont think he saw anything expect some big guys coming free towards him and he just throws it out there and hopes for the best. He just threw it out there hoping his pre-snap coverage read was accurate and Grant would be where he was supposed to be.

I know I am asking a lot, but it was 2nd and 8, not 4th down.

you just dont make a blind throw like that.

when live bullets are flying, im sure its hard to make proper split second decisions but kirk didnt have to treat that down like the game was on the line. it wasnt.
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Im a Cousins fan but the 2 interceptions were on him to varying degrees. i didnt expect this level of inaccuracy from him. the inside post route was his money route but he seems to be off time, throwing it behind guys. i dont think he is throwing it late, just not leading guys enough.

with desean out, that intermediate middle area is not cleared out like it used to be. tighter windows but cousins has to improve his mid passing game. i did not expect this coming into week 1.

1st int - inaccurate ball, unfortunate bounce, nothing more to it imo.

2nd int - cousins makes a blind throw. Im guessing pre-snap he reads pressure and reads Grant as his hot route. But .... post-snap, cousins just throws it out there. i dont think he got to read the play post snap, i dont think he saw anything expect some big guys coming free towards him and he just throws it out there and hopes for the best. He just threw it out there hoping his pre-snap coverage read was accurate and Grant would be where he was supposed to be.

I know I am asking a lot, but it was 2nd and 8, not 4th down.

you just dont make a blind throw like that.

when live bullets are flying, im sure its hard to make proper split second decisions but kirk didnt have to treat that down like the game was on the line. it wasnt.
So fawking true.This was a painful lost. We really would have been on the NFL map with a win yesterday.
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Im a Cousins fan but the 2 interceptions were on him to varying degrees. i didnt expect this level of inaccuracy from him. the inside post route was his money route but he seems to be off time, throwing it behind guys. i dont think he is throwing it late, just not leading guys enough.

with desean out, that intermediate middle area is not cleared out like it used to be. tighter windows but cousins has to improve his mid passing game. i did not expect this coming into week 1.

1st int - inaccurate ball, unfortunate bounce, nothing more to it imo.

2nd int - cousins makes a blind throw. Im guessing pre-snap he reads pressure and reads Grant as his hot route. But .... post-snap, cousins just throws it out there. i dont think he got to read the play post snap, i dont think he saw anything expect some big guys coming free towards him and he just throws it out there and hopes for the best. He just threw it out there hoping his pre-snap coverage read was accurate and Grant would be where he was supposed to be.

I know I am asking a lot, but it was 2nd and 8, not 4th down.

you just dont make a blind throw like that.

when live bullets are flying, im sure its hard to make proper split second decisions but kirk didnt have to treat that down like the game was on the line. it wasnt.
I agree with this 100%. His 2 biggest issues are his inaccuracy and not knowing when to just take a sack or throw it away. On the pick 6 he just chucked it there but is getting a bit of a reprieve because Grant fell. He should've just took the sack and lived to fight another day.
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I agree with this 100%. His 2 biggest issues are his inaccuracy and not knowing when to just take a sack or throw it away. On the pick 6 he just chucked it there but is getting a bit of a reprieve because Grant fell. He should've just took the sack and lived to fight another day.
Throw it away, yes, but he shouldn't have taken a sack in that situation.
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Throw it away, yes, but he shouldn't have taken a sack in that situation.
Throwing it away is always more ideal, I don't think he was outside of the pocket though on that play. Maybe he could have just fired it over both their heads on the sideline. Either option was better than the actual end result.
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1st int - inaccurate ball, unfortunate bounce, nothing more to it imo.

2nd int - cousins makes a blind throw. Im guessing pre-snap he reads pressure and reads Grant as his hot route. But .... post-snap, cousins just throws it out there. i dont think he got to read the play post snap, i dont think he saw anything expect some big guys coming free towards him and he just throws it out there and hopes for the best. He just threw it out there hoping his pre-snap coverage read was accurate and Grant would be where he was supposed to be.

I know I am asking a lot, but it was 2nd and 8, not 4th down.

you just dont make a blind throw like that.
Your whole post was well said. And I agree.

Ideally I want Kirk to turn that throw down and either throw it away or scramble or just pull a Peyton Manning self-sack and throw yourself on the ground to avoid getting blown up.

A hitch is like a mini-curl/come-back route. And those aren't thrown against a CB sitting on the route. And to compound it Kirk was under pressure and didn't see the throw.

Lesson learned. Turn that route down next time this situation or similar occurs.
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Protip: You can't wait until the receiver stops and sits on a route before throwing the ball. You have to anticipate. He was definitely hurried on the throw but for those of you who insist that you don't throw until the receiver is where he is supposed to be know nothing about playing QB. You throw at the instant he cuts. Sometimes guys fall and sometimes DB's get good jumps (That didn't happen on that last play, just stating that it happens). Jason Campbell was a guy who liked to sit and wait for a receiver to be in the right place. He didn't throw a lot of picks but he also didn't do much else. Aaron Rodgers is praised for knowing where he's going to throw the ball for the snap and I can assure you he doesn't wait until the receiver is sitting on a route. That doesn't mean Kirk is playing lights out but he's playing above average and certainly is capable of leading this team as starting QB for the foreseeable future. There are teams with huge money QB's who aren't getting the quality of play at the position that we are.
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