Skins vs. Steelers Positives and Negatives

[rocnrik]

The Browns will beat us and folks will start calling for a head coaching change...the best coach on the team is Bill Callahan..but seriously we need a center,a pass rusher and time to let cousins throw it downfield to see IF he really is the QB of future. We have one of the best group of WR's in league and that is all we got?? might as well trade some of them if we are not going to use them..BAD BAD COACHING..

[OmahaRedskins]

I hope you are joking, Bill Callahan is not a good head coach. He is a good coordinator and offensive line coach.

He lost the team in Oakland, and failed as a Head Coach at Nebraska. He was the Head Coach when Nebraska lost to Texas Tech 70 - 10.

[Bangee7]

Positives:
Hopkins
The 'skins got the 2nd place ribbon last night!!

Negatives:
Coaching - all of them
Gruden/McVay for poor off plan
Callahan for failing to coach up the run game
Barry - gotta get some help for Breeland
oh, and how about popping the Tight End on 3rd & short to prevent that
quick, no-lace throw???

Front Office-
Chico quoted it...we wanted to get better running & stopping the run
YET....we make NO significant changes to the weak link Center position
For God's sake...we could've reached in the 2nd or 3rd round for all I care

and last but not least.....MYSELF
I was foolish enough to think that Compton & Foster would take a step forward at ILB
maybe make our poor d-line look decent...what was I thinking??!!

[jamf]

The only positive this week:
Washington Redskins OL Arie Kouandjio and Baltimore Orioles pitcher Ubaldo Jimenez become U.S. citizens

[Defensewins]

The one positive is it was just game 1.
Matt Jones is not the answer at RB. He runs straight, no bend at his hips, no leverage. Too easy to knock over. He will be injured soon if he does not lower his center of gravity while running.
I have said this since I joined this site, rule #1 in football 101 stopping the run and being able to effectively run the ball. If we can not do this we will have a long season with no playoffs. It fucking kills me we suck at the basics in football.
According to some, we are "built" to be a passing team. You have to learn to walk before you can run or pass in this situation. We made the decision to spend a ton of money on our receivers and TE. We subtracted players from last year and did not replace them with quality talent. We basically created our current weakness.
I understand a team is built over time. But regressing should not happen.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

The one positive is it was just game 1.
Matt Jones is not the answer at RB. He runs straight, no bend at his hips, no leverage. Too easy to knock over. He will be injured soon if he does not lower his center of gravity while running.
I have said this since I joined this site, rule #1 in football 101 stopping the run and being able to effectively run the ball. If we can not do this we will have a long season with no playoffs. It fucking kills me we suck at the basics in football.
According to some, we are "built" to be a passing team. You have to learn to walk before you can run or pass in this situation. We made the decision to spend a ton of money on our receivers and TE. We subtracted players from last year and did not replace them with quality talent. We basically created our current weakness.
I understand a team is built over time. But regressing should not happen.

Im not sold he is healthy...but I think he needs a full season to see if he can be the guy. If not Kelly should get carries.

But McDerp needs to commit to the run game...we should never be passing 3 straight downs.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

The one positive is it was just game 1.

Matt Jones is not the answer at RB. He runs straight, no bend at his hips, no leverage. Too easy to knock over. He will be injured soon if he does not lower his center of gravity while running.

I have said this since I joined this site, rule #1 in football 101 stopping the run and being able to effectively run the ball. If we can not do this we will have a long season with no playoffs. It fucking kills me we suck at the basics in football.

According to some, we are "built" to be a passing team. You have to learn to walk before you can run or pass in this situation. We made the decision to spend a ton of money on our receivers and TE. We subtracted players from last year and did not replace them with quality talent. We basically created our current weakness.

I understand a team is built over time. But regressing should not happen.

I wouldn't say regress. In all fairness we couldn't stop the run or run the ball last year. We also couldn't effectively rush the qb. After only one game I would- if i had to compare- say at the very least we are last years team. However I think we will be better than last year.
We improved in areas that maybe weren't ultra necessary to improve on, but that brings me back to the draft. Everyone on this board was saying things like "drafting for need is how you stay mediocre forever, and taking bpa is how u build a contender but it takes time". Now we are one game into the future and Josh Doctson has no impact on our run game on either side of the ball. Shocker. Lol. All the same people are questioning SM and our improvement. During the draft nobody was complaining. What did everyone mean when they said bpa was the way to go for the future??? Im not saying you specifically but im curious. If people now are going to say we did nothing to improve inour areas of need, than dont hip hip hooray when we dont draft for need!
Who did we subtract and not replace? I would imagine you , like alot of people, are referring to Alfmo?
The guys production has dwindled for three years. Last year he looked like he had mud feet. Other than one nice run for about 13 yards he averaged almost 3 against the Giants. Maybe you weren't referring to him but than who? Why everybody is acting like we let AP walk is beyond me.

[Schneed10]

You know, the more I think about it the more I think we're making a tactical error in running a one-gap front and thinking it will work with this level of defensive line talent. One-gap schemes are rooted in shooting the gap and getting penetration, which leads to pressure on the QB, but also disrupting run plays in the backfield. When you're not making a tackle for a loss, the hope is you make the RB have to cut or juke when he's two yards behind the line of scrimmage.

But we're just not quick enough along the front to penetrate. Baker occasionally gets a little penetration. You see RJF get it here and there. But it's not consistent enough to routinely disrupt.

Shooting a gap and going for penetration of course allows the guards and center to move to the second level and block the linebackers more often.

So my question is why do we have such a steadfast desire to stick with a one gap scheme? Like, have we ever tried flexing into a two-gap style to see what happens? Has Barry tried that and I just haven't noticed? Because I don't feel like he's ever tried it.

I grow frustrated with the lack of adjustment.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

You know, the more I think about it the more I think we're making a tactical error in running a one-gap front and thinking it will work with this level of defensive line talent. One-gap schemes are rooted in shooting the gap and getting penetration, which leads to pressure on the QB, but also disrupting run plays in the backfield. When you're not making a tackle for a loss, the hope is you make the RB have to cut or juke when he's two yards behind the line of scrimmage.

But we're just not quick enough along the front to penetrate. Baker occasionally gets a little penetration. You see RJF get it here and there. But it's not consistent enough to routinely disrupt.

Shooting a gap and going for penetration of course allows the guards and center to move to the second level and block the linebackers more often.

So my question is why do we have such a steadfast desire to stick with a one gap scheme? Like, have we ever tried flexing into a two-gap style to see what happens? Has Barry tried that and I just haven't noticed? Because I don't feel like he's ever tried it.

I grow frustrated with the lack of adjustment.

Joe Barry is the problem i have been less then excited about that guy. thought it was a bad hire from go.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

You know, the more I think about it the more I think we're making a tactical error in running a one-gap front and thinking it will work with this level of defensive line talent. One-gap schemes are rooted in shooting the gap and getting penetration, which leads to pressure on the QB, but also disrupting run plays in the backfield. When you're not making a tackle for a loss, the hope is you make the RB have to cut or juke when he's two yards behind the line of scrimmage.

But we're just not quick enough along the front to penetrate. Baker occasionally gets a little penetration. You see RJF get it here and there. But it's not consistent enough to routinely disrupt.

Shooting a gap and going for penetration of course allows the guards and center to move to the second level and block the linebackers more often.

So my question is why do we have such a steadfast desire to stick with a one gap scheme? Like, have we ever tried flexing into a two-gap style to see what happens? Has Barry tried that and I just haven't noticed? Because I don't feel like he's ever tried it.

I grow frustrated with the lack of adjustment.

I think its primary one gap but it seems to me in some sub sets it can be 2 gap just based on scheme and looks the offense may give. Group needs to work better together to stop the run. Bruton and Cravens need to really step up in support...

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

You know, the more I think about it the more I think we're making a tactical error in running a one-gap front and thinking it will work with this level of defensive line talent.

Really interesting point and a good observation.

We ranked 9th against the run in 2014, the last year of Haslett's 2 gap 3-4:

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2014 DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY RATINGS

2014 DL players:

2014 Washington Redskins Starters, Roster, & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com

In 2015 Barry's first year, we ranked 22nd against the run:

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2015 DEFENSE EFFICIENCY RATINGS

The talent level on the DL in 2015 wasn't drastically different that 2014:

2015 Washington Redskins Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

You know, the more I think about it the more I think we're making a tactical error in running a one-gap front

We lack talent on the DL regardless of scheme. But having the hypothetical choice between playing 1-gap or 2-gap on this team I would go with 1-gap.
Other then Baker (who btw doesn't like 2-gap) which of our DL are capable of playing 2-gap?

At least with 1-gap our blind squirrel DL might stumble into a pressure or a stop.

So my question is why do we have such a steadfast desire to stick with a one gap scheme?

Because Joe Barry is the DC and he's a 1-gap coach. But, again the 1-gap vs 2-gap isn't as big of an issue as the lack of talent.

[Ohioskins]

The thing that continues to amaze me is how bad a game strategy coach Gruden is. Has there ever been a game where he clearly out coaches the opposition? It seems every time he comes in with a game plan that is just destroyed by the game plan of the opposing coach. Then he shows little ability to adapt at half time.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Ohioskins

The thing that continues to amaze me is how bad a game strategy coach Gruden is. Has there ever been a game where he clearly out coaches the opposition? It seems every time he comes in with a game plan that is just destroyed by the game plan of the opposing coach. Then he shows little ability to adapt at half time.

that's what chaps my ass, i understand getting hosed in the 1st half. but when you fail to make adjustments in the 2nd half; come on dawg.

was anyone else yelling for them to put norman on brown, before his 1st td, after his 1st td, after his 2nd td, or at any point?

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by los panda

was anyone else yelling for them to put norman on brown, before his 1st td, after his 1st td, after his 2nd td, or at any point?

All game... all f'in game...