Cowpukes postgame finger pointing thread

[SFREDSKIN]

Washington Redskins' Jay Gruden defends gambles vs. Dallas Cowboys - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Yeah, obviously BPA plays a major role in the draft, hence how we got Doctson, but in an ideal world the BPA (or very close to the BPA) are all defensive players. I really don't see any holes on our offense that need to be replaced now that Long has been established as a solid center. I trust Scott to get the job done for next year.

And thank God we got Doctson. Lol. I know he could be potentially very good even great. Who knows? Im being a wiseguy. But I wouldn't argue BPA using him as an example of why it works at this point because we know nothing about him at this level.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Preston Smith and Kerrigan are very similar players (big guys that really only have 1 move), obviously Kerrigan is better, but their style is the same. You could say the same about Murphy. We need a speed rusher. I believe they will draft an OLB.

Based on watching our defense next year, there aren't many guys that I think should be starting on a playoff caliber team.

CB - Norman
CB - Breeland
FS - Draft or Free Agent
SS - Draft or Free Agent
OLB - Draft or Free Agent
MLB - Cravens
MLB - Draft or Free Agent
OLB - Kerrigan
DE - Draft or Free Agent
NT - Draft or Free Agent
DE - Baker

Now, I'm not saying all of these will actually happen, but I could see a lot of guys being replaced. Depending on how Fuller plays the last 5 games, we might also need a new slot CB.

Basically need a lot of help right down the middle.

Good post.

Am I the only one liking Mason Foster at MLB? Not a pro bowler but a very solid tackler, helping us against the run.

I also think if we improve at DL, Murphy and Smith can do the job at OLB.

In an ideal world, I agree with you, but as somebody said, you can only fill so many holes.

Realistically, I think priority should be SS, FS and DL. I can live with keeping Baker, Kerrigan, Murphy(Smith), Cravens, Foster, Norman and Breeland as starters.

IMO Will Compton isn't physical enough but he seems to be a great team guy in the locker room and on the field... Don't know what to think about him.

[Alvin Walton]

There are plenty of B list things to complain about like the sun in your eyes and stuff but we lost this game because of our defense.
The players and the coaching.
We needed to slap around Prescott and we did not.
Especially while he was stiff arming our secondary and running into the end zone.
That first drive of the game was just stupid.
Its like we were Leesburg High School.
The offseason needs to be about defense.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

There are plenty of B list things to complain about like the sun in your eyes and stuff but we lost this game because of our defense.
The players and the coaching.
We needed to slap around Prescott and we did not.
Especially while he was stiff arming our secondary and running into the end zone.
That first drive of the game was just stupid.
Its like we were Leesburg High School.
The offseason needs to be about defense.

Whitner. Again. Clap clap clap.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

And thank God we got Doctson. Lol. I know he could be potentially very good even great. Who knows? Im being a wiseguy. But I wouldn't argue BPA using him as an example of why it works at this point because we know nothing about him at this level.

I had no problem drafting him and still don't. I still don't think we'll re-sign Jackson, so he'll be a starter next year.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Good post.

Am I the only one liking Mason Foster at MLB? Not a pro bowler but a very solid tackler, helping us against the run.

I also think if we improve at DL, Murphy and Smith can do the job at OLB.

In an ideal world, I agree with you, but as somebody said, you can only fill so many holes.

Realistically, I think priority should be SS, FS and DL. I can live with keeping Baker, Kerrigan, Murphy(Smith), Cravens, Foster, Norman and Breeland as starters.

IMO Will Compton isn't physical enough but he seems to be a great team guy in the locker room and on the field... Don't know what to think about him.

I think Compton and Foster are great backup linebackers but only average starters. Ideally you want to be better than average at every position. Also, if we didn't already have Kerrigan, Smith/Murphy are pretty solid starters, but i'd prefer 1 speed rusher and 1 bull rusher, with the other guys rotating in or being used in our other (non-base) defenses as needed.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Whitner. Again. Clap clap clap.

I'm still waiting to hear who is available right now who is better? Don't you think McC would have him in the roster? Have to wait till next year to replace him via draft.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Didn't have a problem with either of Gruden's decisions. Remember Tampa last year? You win some, you lose some.

And last Sunday after the 4th down conversion we were all admiring Grudens big balls. Sometimes it's the right decision whether it works out or not

But I will say he fucked up big time by not calling a timeout until :11 left in the 2nd quarter. We wasted 15 valuable seconds there

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I think Compton and Foster are great backup linebackers but only average starters. Ideally you want to be better than average at every position. Also, if we didn't already have Kerrigan, Smith/Murphy are pretty solid starters, but i'd prefer 1 speed rusher and 1 bull rusher, with the other guys rotating in or being used in our other (non-base) defenses as needed.

We can't do that in one off-season, if ever. Some of these guys will need to stay for a couple more years.

CB - Norman
CB - Breeland
Slot CB - Fuller (I hope)
FS - Draft or FA
SS - Cravens
ILB - Foster
ILB - Steven Daniels, Draft, or FA
OLB - Kerrigan
OLB - Galette, Draft, or FA
DE - Baker
DE - Draft or FA
NT - Draft or FA

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

We can't do that in one off-season, if ever. Some of these guys will need to stay for a couple more years.

CB - Norman
CB - Breeland
Slot CB - Fuller (I hope)
FS - Draft or FA
SS - Cravens
ILB - Foster
ILB - Steven Daniels, Draft, or FA
OLB - Kerrigan
OLB - Galette, Draft, or FA
DE - Baker
DE - Draft or FA
NT - Draft or FA

I stated "Now, I'm not saying all of these will actually happen, but I could see a lot of guys being replaced. Depending on how Fuller plays the last 5 games, we might also need a new slot CB."

So I agree, we're probably not going to have that many new starters. And Cravens could have been listed at MLB or SS, he will be a quality starter for us for years to come no matter where they put him. I just based it off how they are using him this year.

After 2 straight years of injuries, I don't think you can go into a season assuming you'll not only have Junior healthy, but that he will also be the same player, after not playing for 2 years.

I am interested to see how Daniels plays, he isn't a flash guy, but he led a great defense in college.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I'm still waiting to hear who is available right now who is better? Don't you think McC would have him in the roster? Have to wait till next year to replace him via draft.

Yea I think the knock is some people were thinking Whitner still had something in the tank. He clearly is below E.

[Chico23231]

We need 2 new dline starters and we need to extend Chris baker. I'd let Ricky jean walk, and keep ziggy hood, Matt iannadis and Lanier as rotational/developmental depth.

I'd spend our 1 or 2nd round pick on dline and spend money on a mid range-high end dline free agent.

Folks, this is based on what Dallas has on their Oline...we need to play better against them.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I'm still waiting to hear who is available right now who is better? Don't you think McC would have him in the roster? Have to wait till next year to replace him via draft.

IMO Ihenacho is playing better. But yeah we have to wait next year to improve the position.
Just saying I'm disappointed by his play.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I stated "Now, I'm not saying all of these will actually happen, but I could see a lot of guys being replaced. Depending on how Fuller plays the last 5 games, we might also need a new slot CB."

So I agree, we're probably not going to have that many new starters. And Cravens could have been listed at MLB or SS, he will be a quality starter for us for years to come no matter where they put him. I just based it off how they are using him this year.

After 2 straight years of injuries, I don't think you can go into a season assuming you'll not only have Junior healthy, but that he will also be the same player, after not playing for 2 years.

I am interested to see how Daniels plays, he isn't a flash guy, but he led a great defense in college.

Galette is far from a given. I just think he'll be the first player they'll evaluate for that spot.