Around the NFL Week 2

[Ruhskins]

When you have a porn shoot at 12pm, but have to play QB for the Jags at 1pm:

[skinsfan69]

I'll say this about Cousins, he was smart enough to get the fuck away from this loser dysfunctional franchise. He saw Bruce Allen up close for 6 years and said no thanks. Say what you want about the guy but he's no dummy. He's not a great QB, never will be, but he knows a loser when he sees it. He got his money cause someone was willing to pay it. You're worth what someone's willing to pay. Actually he took less to go to the Vikings over the Jets.

Is Norman or Collins worth the ridiculous jack they're being paid? Well we may think they're not but we're not signing the checks. Someone was willing to pay them so they're worth it to the people that really matter. It's called business....

[Chico23231]

Is Eli gonna cry again?

[Buffalo Bob]

ESPN power rankings has Washington only ahead of the Giants and Dolphins.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

ESPN power rankings has Washington only ahead of the Giants and Dolphins.

Can't argue it

[skinsfaninok]

Eli Manning’s tenure as Giants starter:

* 56,471 passing yards, 362 passing TD, 241 INT
* Led team to two Super Bowl wins
* Two-time Super Bowl MVP
* 116-116 record in 232 starts
* Four-time Pro Bowler
* Never missed time due to injury

[Meks]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Eli Manning’s tenure as Giants starter:

* 56,471 passing yards, 362 passing TD, 241 INT
* Led team to two Super Bowl wins
* Two-time Super Bowl MVP
* 116-116 record in 232 starts
* Four-time Pro Bowler
* Never missed time due to injury

by led team you mean was carried by a few choice WR's and a serious defense? Right I agree.

Lol not knocking the guy that hard im half kidding. He used to be good and I used to hate playing against him. When it's your time tho? It's your time.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Eli Manning’s tenure as Giants starter:

* 56,471 passing yards, 362 passing TD, 241 INT
* Led team to two Super Bowl wins
* Two-time Super Bowl MVP
* 116-116 record in 232 starts
* Four-time Pro Bowler
* Never missed time due to injury

.................and never threw a team mate under the bus!

[MTK]

The HOF debate for Eli will be interesting. Can't take away those 2 SB wins but a .500 overall record? Gross.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

The HOF debate for Eli will be interesting. Can't take away those 2 SB wins but a .500 overall record? Gross.

if he just would won 1, no way he gets in

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by MTK

The HOF debate for Eli will be interesting. Can't take away those 2 SB wins but a .500 overall record? Gross.

Without looking I think Dan Fouts had a .500 overall record and never even made it to a Super Bowl.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Without looking I think Dan Fouts had a .500 overall record and never even made it to a Super Bowl.

Fouts was 86-84-1

Tough to compare these guys across different eras. Fouts would put up stupid stats in today's game.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by MTK

Fouts was 86-84-1

Tough to compare these guys across different eras. Fouts would put up stupid stats in today's game.

Problem is with today's rules and their enforcement those Charger defenses of Fouts era would be giving up 40+ points a game.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MTK

The HOF debate for Eli will be interesting. Can't take away those 2 SB wins but a .500 overall record? Gross.

I have no doubt Eli will be in the HOF. The discussion should be whether or not he is 'first ballot'.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I have no doubt Eli will be in the HOF. The discussion should be whether or not he is 'first ballot'.

Has Eli ever had an elite season that ranked amongst the best qb's in the NFL? He's had plenty of above average years, and plenty of "led the league in picks" years but I can't recall one season where he just steamrolled through everybody. Other than that all he's got is 2 titles. With that W-L record I'm really not sure he's worthy.