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Old 12-22-2005, 06:23 PM   #1
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

What's funny about this thread is that there was a similar debate last year about the greatness of Brett Favre. Some people said that he was great and now he just gets by on reputation. That was even before this season, people were doubting Brett Favre.

Just wanted to clear that up.

For the record, I'm not comparing Vick to Favre, merely pointing out that a lot of question people for some strange reasons.
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Old 12-22-2005, 09:52 PM   #2
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

Anyone remember how Q3 started? Oh yeah...
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:02 PM   #3
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Anyone remember how Q3 started? Oh yeah...
Only Vick knows the answer to Q3...and he'll answer it in ways never before seen.
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:31 PM   #4
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Well this is just disapointing that Marcus Washington, Sean Taylor, and Cornelius Griffen didn't make it. Randy Thomas should have made it too but like the true warrior brave he is, he sacraficed his body and got injured. I also agree that Samuels hasn't proved himself enough to be a perenial pro bowler.

But the whole issue really is that we don't get enough national esposure. If we continue to win, then our players will get elected into the Pro Bowl. That's the whole reason Moss was able to be voted in. He had that huge game on Monday Night Football in front of a national audiance and then again last week against the Cowboys.

I blame the issue on ESPN. All they ever talk about is Mike Vick, Donnovan and T.O. and The Cowboys, and the Colts. And they always hate on the Redskins. Wich could be a reason why our players don't get the Reccognition they deserve.

If we go into the playoffs and play well in front the nation, then next season our guys will be huge on NFL fans rader.

Redskins players I thought should be in the playoffs...

Santanna Moss
Cornelius Griffen
Marcus Washington
Shawn Springs
Sean Taylor
Randy Thomas
Clinton Portis
Jon Janson
Chris Cooley

And Mike Sellers shoud get some honest consideration for all his TDs, special teams, and lead blocks for Clinton Portis.
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:38 AM   #5
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

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Well this is just disapointing that Marcus Washington, Sean Taylor, and Cornelius Griffen didn't make it. Randy Thomas should have made it too but like the true warrior brave he is, he sacraficed his body and got injured. I also agree that Samuels hasn't proved himself enough to be a perenial pro bowler.

But the whole issue really is that we don't get enough national esposure. If we continue to win, then our players will get elected into the Pro Bowl. That's the whole reason Moss was able to be voted in. He had that huge game on Monday Night Football in front of a national audiance and then again last week against the Cowboys.

I blame the issue on ESPN. All they ever talk about is Mike Vick, Donnovan and T.O. and The Cowboys, and the Colts. And they always hate on the Redskins. Wich could be a reason why our players don't get the Reccognition they deserve.

If we go into the playoffs and play well in front the nation, then next season our guys will be huge on NFL fans rader.

Redskins players I thought should be in the playoffs...

Santanna Moss
Cornelius Griffen
Marcus Washington
Shawn Springs
Sean Taylor
Randy Thomas
Clinton Portis
Jon Janson
Chris Cooley

And Mike Sellers shoud get some honest consideration for all his TDs, special teams, and lead blocks for Clinton Portis.
Joe you do know, we can argue up and down about stats and wins, but it comes down to how they are perceived on an National level. The skins were almost unbearable to watch last year from a fans standpoint and were predicted to finish dead last this year. That does not carry well with your coverage and your appeal to the Sportswriters, Sports shows, and in turn the national audience opinion of you is you did not do anything in the off season to better yourself, in turn your (opinion)players are not that good. Much of the opinions of your normal NFL fan outside their normal team start at ESPN and they are bandwagon jumpers from way back and have been on the Panthers, Seahawks, Eagles, Cowboys, Colts, Bengals, Falcons, and select other teams with coverage all year even when they have stunk in up lately. These are all teams they picked from the beginning of the year to be in the playoffs and contenders. Skins began to sway the opinions and get some media coverage, but the midseason crash when most of your voting takes place with 2-5 stretch does not get coverage except that the opinion they are not very good in the national eye. Moss was the only player getting coverage for the skins and it all began with the breakout on National TV against a highly media loved Cowboys. From that game on he was in categories even when they talked about other top receivers like S. Smith, Torry Holt, Harrison, etc... when they looked at stats whether he was on top or 2nd or 3rd you always saw his name and the reason the skins were lossing is because he is so good and was the entire skins offense he demands double and triple coverage, that gets you a pro bowl bid, but he did deserve. I follow the skins and watch every play of every game, but spot watch other teams and games and only can get my opinion of their play from that and the media outlets. I would have to agree with Joe's list of Skins that should have been in, but our team play and the losses we had did not help our bid for National coverage and exposure to the players. If we go to the playoffs this year and fill some holes in the off-season we will be in a better position next year for pro bowl bids.
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:38 AM   #6
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

what they should've done is put cooley on the tight end ballot, then put sellers on the fullback ballot. I think sellers should've gone to the pro bowl, portis loves having him as the lead blocker, he's also a touchdown scoring machine inside the red zone, and he's been very productive for a fullback.
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:37 PM   #7
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

can we quit the pointless off topic sniping please?
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:32 PM   #8
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Yes! And those who know me, know that I normally am not someone who starts shit, but seriously, it's a FOOTBALL GAME, just f-ing CHILL.
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