Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

As far as the offense goes, Brian Kelly/Chuck Martin at Notre Dame are teaching a 19 year old kid to master the back shoulder/front shoulder option nine route that Eli Manning has gotten so good at throwing. And yet, this is too much for RG3 to handle? Nonsense.

What are you talking about? He gets to run option plays, go out for passes to get decapitated and QB sweeps w/out the option to pass! This is really preparing to become the next Aaron Rodgers!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by That Guy

punch, why is it so important that you have every other post in this thread?

You know what man. I ignored your comment over in your tv thread. It was Funny! Ok. Funny! I went into that thread thinking it was about Shanny. I was confused. I pointed that out and left it alone. So dont call me a troll. Dont tell me " way to keep it classy".
Also now your panties are in a bunch because i have posted alot in this thread. Ill tell you what man - instead of letting me consume your every thought and acting like you know what kind of person i am - an classless attention whore- i guess. Instead just ****ing ignore me so I dont feel like your stalking my posts just to make some stupid remark.

[CRedskinsRule]

Another clarification:

I have seen in this thread people quoting all sorts of times for MS' tenure here. He has had 2 1/2 years of games:
1st season - regular, no distractions - 16 games
2nd season - lockout, no real off-season -16 games
3rd season (1/2 done) - ref lockout, 18 million deduction to this year's cap - 9 games

it's not 3 1/2 years, nor 3 full seasons. Let's see where this one ends, and (for me) - next year's moves. I expect that if we do stay the course we will see many good things (the defensive backups that stay will provide solid depth, returning starters will provide solid play, new FS/SS/CB will have to prove themselves, etc) but then kool-aid always makes the vision clearer.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Another clarification:

I have seen in this thread people quoting all sorts of times for MS' tenure here. He has had 2 1/2 years of games:
1st season - regular, no distractions - 16 games
2nd season - lockout, no real off-season -16 games
3rd season (1/2 done) - ref lockout, 18 million deduction to this year's cap - 9 games

it's not 3 1/2 years, nor 3 full seasons. Let's see where this one ends, and (for me) - next year's moves. I expect that if we do stay the course we will see many good things (the defensive backups that stay will provide solid depth, returning starters will provide solid play, new FS/SS/CB will have to prove themselves, etc) but then kool-aid always makes the vision clearer.

good call, it just feels like 3 1/2 yrs. already.

and 18M deduction this yr. and next was due to cap penalties incurred in 2010 season and done under MS's watch.

[skinsfaninok]

anyone know where to find the Hoodie Mike had on Sunday?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

anyone know where to find the Hoodie Mike had on Sunday?

In the trash. It's bad luck.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Lotus

In the trash. It's bad luck.

O now Lotus, FEDEX FIELD is bad luck!

[donofriose]

First three seasons
Shanahan: 14-27 (thus far) -almost lost twice as many games as he has won.
Sean Payton: 25-23 (4th year super bowl champions)
Gary Kubiak: 22-26 (4th year goes 9-7 one game out of playoffs, showed improvement every year)
John Harbaugh: 32-16
Jim Harbaugh: 19-5 (only one season and a half and has 5 more wins than Shanahan)
Belichick: 25-23 (won a superbowl in second year and two more)
Coughlin: Giants 25-23 (won superbowl next year) Jaguars 24-24 (makes playoffs two next seasons)
Mike Smith: 33-15 (has only missed playoffs one year)

What exactly has Shanahan done to keep his job? He went 6-10 then 5-11 and it looks like we will be lucky to go 4-12. So every season we loose one more game. Coaches that take over bad teams show improvement over three years. Every one of these coaches took over teams that just fired there coaches and they turned them around. Why can't Shanahan turn this team around? He has a terrible record compared to other good coaches in the league. Maybe this team can turn it around next year and make the playoffs. But right now I would actually be a little happy if we fired him at the end of this season. RG3 is a pocket passer and a roll out passer stop calling dumb run plays with him. We have a solid Oline outside of RT and good running back, run with him let RG3 be a quarterback. Did they not watch him at Baylor? He destroys you with the pass but can run when he has to. Obviously compared to other coaches in the NFL, Shanahan is outdated, out coached and he simply has not shown improvement even with what looks like a franchise quarterback.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by donofriose

First three seasons
Shanahan: 14-27 (thus far) -almost lost twice as many games as he has won.
Sean Payton: 25-23 (4th year super bowl champions)
Gary Kubiak: 22-26 (4th year goes 9-7 one game out of playoffs, showed improvement every year)
John Harbaugh: 32-16
Jim Harbaugh: 19-5 (only one season and a half)
Belichick: 25-23 (won a superbowl in second year and two more)
Coughlin: Giants 25-23 (won superbowl next year) Jaguars 24-24 (makes playoffs two next seasons)
Mike Smith: 33-15 (has only missed playoffs one year)

What exactly has Shanahan done to keep his job? He went 6-10 then 5-11 and it looks like we will be lucky to go 4-12. So every season we loose one more game. Coaches that take over bad teams show improvement over three years. Every one of these coaches took over teams that just fired there coaches and they turned them around. Why can't Shanahan turn this team around? He has a terrible record compared to other good coaches in the league. Maybe this team can turn it around next year and make the playoffs. But right now I would actually be a little happy if we fired him at the end of this season. RG3 is a pocket passer and a roll out passer stop calling dumb run plays with him. We have a solid Oline outside of RT and good running back, run with him let RG3 be a quarterback. Did they not watch him at Baylor? He destroys you with the pass but can run when he has to. Obviously compared to other coaches in the NFL, Shanahan is outdated, out coached and he simply has not shown improvement even with what looks like a franchise quarterback.

That is so bad. UGH

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by donofriose

First three seasons
Shanahan: 14-27 (thus far) -almost lost twice as many games as he has won.
Sean Payton: 25-23 (4th year super bowl champions)
Gary Kubiak: 22-26 (4th year goes 9-7 one game out of playoffs, showed improvement every year)
John Harbaugh: 32-16
Jim Harbaugh: 19-5 (only one season and a half and has 5 more wins than Shanahan)
Belichick: 25-23 (won a superbowl in second year and two more)
Coughlin: Giants 25-23 (won superbowl next year) Jaguars 24-24 (makes playoffs two next seasons)
Mike Smith: 33-15 (has only missed playoffs one year)

What exactly has Shanahan done to keep his job? He went 6-10 then 5-11 and it looks like we will be lucky to go 4-12. So every season we loose one more game. Coaches that take over bad teams show improvement over three years. Every one of these coaches took over teams that just fired there coaches and they turned them around. Why can't Shanahan turn this team around? He has a terrible record compared to other good coaches in the league. Maybe this team can turn it around next year and make the playoffs. But right now I would actually be a little happy if we fired him at the end of this season. RG3 is a pocket passer and a roll out passer stop calling dumb run plays with him. We have a solid Oline outside of RT and good running back, run with him let RG3 be a quarterback. Did they not watch him at Baylor? He destroys you with the pass but can run when he has to. Obviously compared to other coaches in the NFL, Shanahan is outdated, out coached and he simply has not shown improvement even with what looks like a franchise quarterback.

Ok.....I'm even more sold than I was yesterday.
Shanahan and his entourage need to go at the end of the season.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by donofriose

First three seasons
Shanahan: 14-27 (thus far) -almost lost twice as many games as he has won.
Sean Payton: 25-23 (4th year super bowl champions)
Gary Kubiak: 22-26 (4th year goes 9-7 one game out of playoffs, showed improvement every year)
John Harbaugh: 32-16
Jim Harbaugh: 19-5 (only one season and a half)
Belichick: 25-23 (won a superbowl in second year and two more)
Coughlin: Giants 25-23 (won superbowl next year) Jaguars 24-24 (makes playoffs two next seasons)
Mike Smith: 33-15 (has only missed playoffs one year)

What exactly has Shanahan done to keep his job? He went 6-10 then 5-11 and it looks like we will be lucky to go 4-12. So every season we loose one more game. Coaches that take over bad teams show improvement over three years. Every one of these coaches took over teams that just fired there coaches and they turned them around. Why can't Shanahan turn this team around? He has a terrible record compared to other good coaches in the league. Maybe this team can turn it around next year and make the playoffs. But right now I would actually be a little happy if we fired him at the end of this season. RG3 is a pocket passer and a roll out passer stop calling dumb run plays with him. We have a solid Oline outside of RT and good running back, run with him let RG3 be a quarterback. Did they not watch him at Baylor? He destroys you with the pass but can run when he has to. Obviously compared to other coaches in the NFL, Shanahan is outdated, out coached and he simply has not shown improvement even with what looks like a franchise quarterback.

What he said🔝

[skinsfaninok]

Here's the thing, Jason Garrett is on the hotseat in Dallas and he has been there pretty much the same length as Mike. Garrett has a better record but because WINNING is just the way it is on Dallas he's about to get fired, u know say what u want about Jerry but he does not accept losing, yeah he hasn't had great teams lately but he has won 3 superbowls and they did go 13-3 a few years back. When is the last time a redskins team won 13 games?? What 1991? Losing has become acceptable in DC and that's why most don't want Mike fired because fans just assume the next guy will be a loser as well. It's sad really.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Here's the thing, Jason Garrett is on the hotseat in Dallas and he has been there pretty much the same length as Mike. Garrett has a better record but because WINNING is just the way it is on Dallas he's about to get fired, u know say what u want about Jerry but he does not accept losing, yeah he hasn't had great teams lately but he has won 3 superbowls and they did go 13-3 a few years back. When is the last time a redskins team won 13 games?? What 1991? Losing has become acceptable in DC and that's why most don't want Mike fired because fans just assume the next guy will be a loser as well. It's sad really.

I agree. A lot of the other organizations in the NFL don't tolerate losing at all. Coughlin almost lost his job year because the Giants only accept winning. We honestly are trying to be mediocre again. Not terrible, not great, but our fanbase things if we become average we might as well won the superbowl.

[HailGreen28]

Two and a half seasons in the Shanny tenure, and we're begging for Dan Snyder to hire another HC.

This thread has become unwatchable, just like the presidential elections thread. Too ******* stupid.

edit: Whatever happened to "doing it the right way" and "5 years" and "patience" and "Snyder meddling" and "coaching carousel" and "we've changed"? Did we think we just say those things and we still get instant gratification? OK, that's all I wanted to add.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Two and a half seasons in the Shanny tenure, and we're begging for Dan Snyder to hire another HC.

This thread has become unwatchable, just like the presidential elections thread. Too ******* stupid.

In one season and half Harbaugh has 5 more wins than Mike's two season and half. In what way has this team improved? We were always competitive but so is every team in the NFL. He has done nothing to prove that he deserves to be here.