Come up with a new name for the Redskins

[FrenchSkin]

Jonathan Allen says he likes a lot of things about the Redwolves name

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Jonathan Allen says he likes a lot of things about the Redwolves name

Nothing to do with Wolves, but let's sign him to a fatty.

He is the interior anchor.

I love Payne too, but JA is the glue to our front 4, imo. Gotta have him.

[nonniey]

After Cleveland's Guardians fiasco (and the blow back has been huge) it makes me wonder if the Redskins will be a little hesitant to pick a name at this point. I think it strengthens the argument to stick with WFT. If they do go with another name it will only be a small minority that likes it and everyone else whose choice wasn't picked will start shooting holes in the new name (Which is what is happening in Cleveland right now).

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by nonniey

After Cleveland's Guardians fiasco (and the blow back has been huge) it makes me wonder if the Redskins will be a little hesitant to pick a name at this point. I think it strengthens the argument to stick with WFT. If they do go with another name it will only be a small minority that likes it and everyone else whose choice wasn't picked will start shooting holes in the new name (Which is what is happening in Cleveland right now).

I don't see much in the way of the blowback you are talking about. And Washington will receive a ton of blowback if after tons of talk about fan submissions, posting polls, and linking to the past without Native American imagery, they leave the name as WFT. That (hopefully) just is not happening.

Regardless once the name is announced people, including me, will just have to accept it and move on. I like Rivera and Wright being at the head of the change, I just have a level of trust with them that I haven't had since Gibbs, and it is probably stronger than that, because the two seem to have a real strong hold on where they want this team to get to, and what it takes to make that happen - both on the field and off.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't see much in the way of the blowback you are talking about. And Washington will receive a ton of blowback if after tons of talk about fan submissions, posting polls, and linking to the past without Native American imagery, they leave the name as WFT. That (hopefully) just is not happening.

Regardless once the name is announced people, including me, will just have to accept it and move on. I like Rivera and Wright being at the head of the change, I just have a level of trust with them that I haven't had since Gibbs, and it is probably stronger than that, because the two seem to have a real strong hold on where they want this team to get to, and what it takes to make that happen - both on the field and off.

Yeah there's no way they stick with the temporary name after 2 years of talking about how great, thorough and complicated a renaming process they were going through... To me that's as close as 100% out an option can be.

As you said, we will all accept the new name at some point, and the more time they take, the more even those not liking the new one will go "erf, at least we finally have a name", and I think they know that.

Side note, Ron is cool with Redwolves (at 00:48, also ok with Redtails and wouldn't mind staying with WFT).

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

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Well we know that isn't exactly true. The franchise lost a chunk (probably a substantial chunk) of their fan base when they retired the Redskins. No matter what they do with the new name they will lose some more. That will come into their calculations as well. The assumption at this point is WFT will do the least amount of immediate damage and they will have to balance that against what name they think has the most potential to regrow their diminished fan base.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Well we know that isn't exactly true. The franchise lost a chunk (probably a substantial chunk) of their fan base when they retired the Redskins. No matter what they do with the new name they will lose some more. That will come into their calculations as well. The assumption at this point is WFT will do the least amount of immediate damage and they will have to balance that against what name they think has the most potential to regrow their diminished fan base.

Yeah... it was probably that and not the 30 years of crap football.

"All we had left was the name and they took that too"

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Well we know that isn't exactly true. The franchise lost a chunk (probably a substantial chunk) of their fan base when they retired the Redskins. No matter what they do with the new name they will lose some more. That will come into their calculations as well. The assumption at this point is WFT will do the least amount of immediate damage and they will have to balance that against what name they think has the most potential to regrow their diminished fan base.

Again, could be wrong, but I strongly disagree with that. Do you picture how stupid and lame they'd look if they kept the temporary name found in 2 weeks after 2 years+ of talking up their great rebranding process and how they value the trillions of fans input they bragged about receiving ?
Plus they talked many times about wanting to pick a long lasting name. How cheap will it look in 60+years : "wait, why did they stick with the no-name-name that was supposed to be temporary again ? -well some people were pissed about the name changed and they were scared to piss some more by picking a new name...".

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by nonniey

After Cleveland's Guardians fiasco (and the blow back has been huge) it makes me wonder if the Redskins will be a little hesitant to pick a name at this point. I think it strengthens the argument to stick with WFT. If they do go with another name it will only be a small minority that likes it and everyone else whose choice wasn't picked will start shooting holes in the new name (Which is what is happening in Cleveland right now).

Well look at the logo. It's basically a 1950s gas station sign in terms of design quality. Might work for a Detroit throwback, but not a rebrand.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Just don't be worse than The Guardians. That's my floor. Above that and I'll live.

[Monkeydad]

Meanwhile. the Browns new throwbacks look great.

[jamf]

Cleveland Bengals

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Meanwhile. the Browns new throwbacks look great.

[Monkeydad]

Ha, name taken. Roller Derby team.

[Chief X_Phackter]

40-50% seems high, although I have no data to back up any argument with that. Just seems high. My guess is those who were fans for a number of years likely stuck with them, while newer fans had more of a propensity to jump ship. Would be interesting to find out the actual numbers.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

40-50% seems high, although I have no data to back up any argument with that. Just seems high. My guess is those who were fans for a number of years likely stuck with them, while newer fans had more of a propensity to jump ship. Would be interesting to find out the actual numbers.

That would be an interesting study.

I would add that the arrival and subsequent success of the Ravens took a chunk out of our fanbase, especially among the young with no memory of the Gibbs era.

And likewise a lot of Orioles fans probably ditched the team because of Angelos and went over to the Nats.