Week 1: Redskins vs. Cowboys, Game-Day Thread

[Bucket]

Hey these are the games we didn't think to win.. The first games with the new system etc.... If we win these it can only go up!!!!!


I'm loving the new D... They just need to stay off the field for a bit..

[SBXVII]

On a quick side note.... the Detroit game with the questionable play of the day...

The Refs say no TD cause he didn't have 2 feet down? was that the reason? I see him catch it, take 2 steps, then his hip hits the ground before the ball hits the ground and rolls out of his hand. It should have been a TD. Literally I see his right foot come down, then his left, then his left again and his hip.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

On a quick side note.... the Detroit game with the questionable play of the day...

The Refs say no TD cause he didn't have 2 feet down? was that the reason? I see him catch it, take 2 steps, then his hip hits the ground before the ball hits the ground and rolls out of his hand. It should have been a TD. Literally I see his right foot come down, then his left, then his left again and his hip.

Nothing to do with his feet, he bobbled the ball at the end so no catch. Same thing that happened in the Skins/Bucs playoff game in Tampa a few years ago where the Bucs WR lost control as he hit the ground. You have to complete the act of the catch.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Nothing to do with his feet, he bobbled the ball at the end so no catch. Same thing that happened in the Skins/Bucs playoff game in Tampa a few years ago where the Bucs WR lost control as he hit the ground. You have to complete the act of the catch.

I don't know I say catch. Yes he bobbled the ball when he first caught it, but when his first foot comes down he has it in his right hand grasping it. The ball does not move until the tip hits the ground for which it rolls away, but it the ground can't cause a fumble the it's a TD.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I don't know I say catch. Yes he bobbled the ball when he first caught it, but when his first foot comes down he has it in his right hand grasping it. The ball does not move until the tip hits the ground for which it rolls away, but it the ground can't cause a fumble the it's a TD.

The ground can't cause a fumble, but it CAN cause an incompletion.

Blame the rule, but you can't blame the call. The refs called it right.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Nothing to do with his feet, he bobbled the ball at the end so no catch. Same thing that happened in the Skins/Bucs playoff game in Tampa a few years ago where the Bucs WR lost control as he hit the ground. You have to complete the act of the catch.

I feel thats different cause Johnson didnt let go of the ball till he was getting up, while Williams in the playoff game clearly lost control of the ball before he hit the ground and the ground allowed him to get control of the ball, Johnson had it all the way for me.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

On a quick side note.... the Detroit game with the questionable play of the day...

The Refs say no TD cause he didn't have 2 feet down? was that the reason? I see him catch it, take 2 steps, then his hip hits the ground before the ball hits the ground and rolls out of his hand. It should have been a TD. Literally I see his right foot come down, then his left, then his left again and his hip.

NO, it had to do with a new rule about keeping possesion of the ball through the play. Johnson got the ball in bounds with both feet, but as he came down he put the ball on the ground first, then let it go. He had possesion of the ball, but he did let go of it as he pulled himself up. I do not know why these NFL assholes try and screw with the rules to be able to have more control over the outcome of the game.

[GusFrerotte]

Haslett needs to lay off the blitz. We had what, only one sack? Sure we rushed Romo's timing often in the first half, but the blitz lost its effectiveness as the game went on in the second half. We were one stupid mistake away from getting smoked at the end.

[Kindoy]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Haslett needs to lay off the blitz. We had what, only one sack? Sure we rushed Romo's timing often in the first half, but the blitz lost its effectiveness as the game went on in the second half. We were one stupid mistake away from getting smoked at the end.

wouldve had more if not for the holding and it did have an effect on Romo in multiple plays, we just need more time w/ the 3-4

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Haslett needs to lay off the blitz. We had what, only one sack? Sure we rushed Romo's timing often in the first half, but the blitz lost its effectiveness as the game went on in the second half. We were one stupid mistake away from getting smoked at the end.

I would say no cause I like the attacking defense, but showing blitz then backing out to put more people in coverage would have been nice a few times. I'm also not a fan of the 1 or 2 guys only on the defensive line.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Haslett needs to lay off the blitz. We had what, only one sack? Sure we rushed Romo's timing often in the first half, but the blitz lost its effectiveness as the game went on in the second half. We were one stupid mistake away from getting smoked at the end.

That scheme worked big time. All day they forced Romo into hot reads and tempered their offense. They broke some big plays but mostly we dictated their offense all day. That was big.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

That scheme worked big time. All day they forced Romo into hot reads and tempered their offense. They broke some big plays but mostly we dictated their offense all day. That was big.

So true. The new D needs work but there is a lot to like there.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

That scheme worked big time. All day they forced Romo into hot reads and tempered their offense. They broke some big plays but mostly we dictated their offense all day. That was big.

I liked the blitzing, but in the second half the effectiveness lessened. At that point I think Haslett should have mixed it up with occasional blitz packages and straight up coverage. If that dumbass doesn't hold Orakpo, we lose.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I liked the blitzing, but in the second half the effectiveness lessened. At that point I think Haslett should have mixed it up with occasional blitz packages and straight up coverage. If that dumbass doesn't hold Orakpo, we lose.

If Orakpo doesn't get held.. Romo hits the dirt... He got held for a godo 2 seconds.

Ofcourse he was held all night by BOTH OT's... It was rediculous.. I can't believe it wasn't called more.. I sometimes thinks Wade has the T's to block that way because isn't it wierd that Adams and this tool both lead the league with holds and shit?

Totally stupid... Orakpo should of had atleast 2 sacks tonight

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Bucket

If Orakpo doesn't get held.. Romo hits the dirt... He got held for a godo 2 seconds.

Ofcourse he was held all night by BOTH OT's... It was rediculous.. I can't believe it wasn't called more.. I sometimes thinks Wade has the T's to block that way because isn't it wierd that Adams and this tool both lead the league with holds and shit?

Totally stupid... Orakpo should of had atleast 2 sacks tonight

Cowpukes are one of the "top dogs" in the NFL hierarchy. Refs are biased in favor of them.