Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Garcon and Gaffney had similar statistics by the end of last season. Both caught a lot of passes and both had just under 1,000 yards receiving. Hankerson has talent and has potential, but we're still basing him off of what he did in college. He's still unproven in the NFL. Morgan is a great fill in receiver and we are already familiar with Santana Moss. Gaffney won't be the odd man out when it comes to roster cuts. Anthony Armstrong will likely be released by preseason's end.

Armstrong gone, Anderson gone, Banks gone, Austin gone, Gaffney gone,

Hankerson/Garcon/Morgan/Moss/Paul/Draft pick or Robinson

Gaffney played one year for us and had a career season. Congrats to him, if we didn't feel we needed an upgrade we wouldn't have gotten two and tried for a 3rd. Bye bye Gaffney. It's been real, it's been fun but it hasn't been real fun.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Armstrong gone, Anderson gone, Banks gone, Austin gone, Gaffney gone,

Hankerson/Garcon/Morgan/Moss/Paul/Draft pick or Robinson

Gaffney played one year for us and had a career season. Congrats to him, if we didn't feel we needed an upgrade we wouldn't have gotten two and tried for a 3rd. Bye bye Gaffney. It's been real, it's been fun but it hasn't been real fun.

If Aldrick Robinson does attain a roster spot and Gaffney is released that will really surprise me. The most productive receiver from the previous season getting the ax and a practice squad player all last year surviving the final cut? Seems doubtful but we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

If Aldrick Robinson does attain a roster spot and Gaffney is released that will really surprise me. The most productive receiver from the previous season getting the ax and a practice squad player all last year surviving the final cut? Seems doubtful but we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?

Think about it in terms of the role though. You have to replace Donte Stallworth and his 22/309/2 line. Your options are a pair of declining players who are well established in this league (at least as established as Stallworth was last year, probably more, certainly more with this franchise), or a younger draft pick of the team from 2011. If the performances in OTA's and Training Camp and Preseason were close, which one should the team pick? That's the question.

I mean if you don't think Robinson is capable of 22/309/2, then I don't think you should keep him.

[REDSKINS4ever]

I expect Hankerson and Garcon to be the two starters at the beginning of the season unless the coaches feel confident with starting Gaffney and Garcon. Moss will definitely be the slot receiver. If Moss doesn't start at the end of the season it wouldn't surprise me. But I still say he'll be a big part of the passing game. Garcon will start all season and Hankerson will eventually start opposite Garcon and Gaffney will fall 4th on the depth chart. Josh Morgan will of course be featured in certain situations. The Redskins have too much talent at receiver not to use 4 and 5 WR sets on 2nd and long and 3rd and long situations. With Cooley coming back and with Fred Davis always open, look for this passing game to be potent.

[Paintrain]

I'd love nothing more than for Moss to prove me wrong and show he's still got something left in his legs and can be a slot weapon. That being said, I won't be heartbroken if we draft a Joe Adams, Ryan Broyles or Devon Wylie in the 4th or 5th round to become a slot weapon. I can see a vastly different WR group in 2013 than we did in 2011 with Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong, Austin and Banks no longer on the roster.

[The Goat]

I'll be surprised if Hankerson or Morgan starts. One of my guys in the office is a longtime Niners fan and doesn't think Morgan is a starting-caliber WR, as in SanFran was more than happy to see him go. Hankerson's injury is a big-time question mark. If Garcon isn't at Z then Gaffney or even Moss will likely be the opening day starter.

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I'll be surprised if Hankerson or Morgan starts. One of my guys in the office is a longtime Niners fan and doesn't think Morgan is a starting-caliber WR, as in SanFran was more than happy to see him go. Hankerson's injury is a big-time question mark. If Garcon isn't at Z then Gaffney or even Moss will likely be the opening day starter.

That is interesting because I have heard that Mike Shanahan actually felt as though Josh Morgan was the steal out of the two (and could potentially contribute more in the offense). I wish I could provide a link, but I distinctly remember reading that.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

That is interesting because I have heard that Mike Shanahan actually felt as though Josh Morgan was the steal out of the two (and could potentially contribute more in the offense). I wish I could provide a link, but I distinctly remember reading that.

That kind of makes Mike look stupid considering we blew most our FA wad on Garcon. But anyway like folks around here remind me it's all coach speak...

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I'll be surprised if Hankerson or Morgan starts. One of my guys in the office is a longtime Niners fan and doesn't think Morgan is a starting-caliber WR, as in SanFran was more than happy to see him go. Hankerson's injury is a big-time question mark. If Garcon isn't at Z then Gaffney or even Moss will likely be the opening day starter.

Why does it sound like Hankerson is going to be Malcolm Kelly v. 2.0?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Why does it sound like Hankerson is going to be Malcolm Kelly v. 2.0?

Geez I hope that's not the case. Hopefully Hank's hip injury was a freak thing and he eventually recovers. That said I've heard it's a long healing process and he/us would be silly to push too hard this season if there's risk of re-injury.

[NYCskinfan82]

Please remember when we drafted MK he was already hurt.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Please remember when we drafted MK he was already hurt.

Yeah he came with an injury red flag already in place.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Please remember when we drafted MK he was already hurt.

Team doctors strongly advised Vinny Cerrato and Daniel Snyder not to draft Kelly and what happens? The Redskins end up wasting a 2nd round draft pick on him anyway. The thing about Kelly is Mike Shanahan allowed him to go to IR in 2010. But in the 2011 preseason/training camp Malcolm Kelly showed no fight, no tenacity, and no heart and so he was let go. What a waste.

I'm so glad Cerratto isn't in Washington to make personnel decisions anymore.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Team doctors strongly advised Vinny Cerrato and Daniel Snyder not to draft Kelly and what happens? The Redskins end up wasting a 2nd round draft pick on him anyway. The thing about Kelly is Mike Shanahan allowed him to go to IR in 2010. But in the 2011 preseason/training camp Malcolm Kelly showed no fight, no tenacity, and no heart and so he was let go. What a waste.

I'm so glad Cerratto isn't in Washington to make personnel decisions anymore.

Proof? I think he got injured again in 2011. That's a far cry from what you're suggesting. Not trying to detract from your point, which is that we never should've drafted him in the first place, but all indications were that he was a great kid whose heart was in the right place, but he just couldn't get on the field.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by mooby

Proof? I think he got injured again in 2011. That's a far cry from what you're suggesting. Not trying to detract from your point, which is that we never should've drafted him in the first place, but all indications were that he was a great kid whose heart was in the right place, but he just couldn't get on the field.

I suppose I'm being a little too critical of Kelly because I had high expectations of him. When Art Monk couldn't compete in the 1982 playoffs because of a broken toe, that was a legitimate injury. Kelly had his chances. If he really wanted to push at it, he could have battled through whatever injury he had. But as I said in my earlier post, Kelly had no testicular fortitude. He had no fight in him whatsoever. The fact that he is still a free agent shows the guy has nothing but quit in him.