2011 NFL Draft

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

How would we feel about getting Phil Taylor, should I don't know, if we get a later first round pick somewhere from 18 on or using our second rounder on him?

I say this because he's said to be the best NT in the draft, but he supposedly has bone growth issues in his feet.

I haven't really watched him play but the foot issues scare me, especially in the first round

a lot of people are saying he's closer to 3rd round talent but the NT field isn't very deep

[KI Skins Fan]

I'm starting to think that we really are going to draft a QB in the first round. I'd like to toss out a couple of thoughts I have about that.

First of all, if the Skins are going to draft a QB in the first round, then there is no legitimate reason for them to trade down to try to gain more draft picks while hoping that their guy will be there later. That's because they are selecting the man who will be starting at the most important position on the field and they cannot risk not getting him. I do not buy the idea that the Skins may rate two or more QB's equally which, in their minds, might mitigate the risk of trading down. When picking the player they want to lead their team in the future, they must know which player they think would be the best fit. Also, I don't think that Skins management has the luxury of making a mistake. So, if they expect their player to be drafted higher than #10, then trading up makes a lot more sense than trading down. To me, that is simple logic.

Secondly, when picking a Franchise QB, I think the Skins need to see something in him that is exceptional above and beyond the expected QB skill set. To my way of thinking, that eliminates all but four of the QB prospects in this draft. The remaining QB's are Newton, Gabbert, Locker, and Mallet. Some people might add Colin K. to this list because of his tremendous athleticism but I think he is lacking in the standard QB skill set.

Cam Newton is a great athlete. To have his athletic gifts at his size is truly exceptional. He has a strong arm. Accuracy is an issue.

Jake Locker is also an exceptional athlete. I think he throws extremely well on the run. He needs to work on his skills in the pocket and his mechanics.

Blaine Gabbert has the arm and the ability to consistently make all of the throws he'll need to make with excellent accuracy and touch. He is a very good athlete with the ability to escape the pass rush and make plays. He has prototypical size for an NFL QB.

Ryan Mallett has an amazingly strong arm and he is an accurate passer. Unfortunately, he is also a statue. He'll need to depend on a quick release and a decent OL.

I like some of the other QB prospects but I just don't see anything exceptional about them that would put them in the same category as the ones I listed.

[skinsfaninok]

Wonder is NE will actually take a QB this yr? I still think Brady has 3-4 great years left though.

[SmootSmack]

Good post KI

[skinsfaninok]

I agRee K I and I too think We will draft at QB at 10, especially because I think Quinn will go top 7 so our pass rusher will be gone. I'm really starting to like Ryan Mallett lately, dude has a tremendous arm and is pretty accurate.

[takethecake]

Haha PFT just reported the skins may be interested in Mallett. Obviously not something to take seriously, but definitely ironic. Shanny smoke machine running well...

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[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by takethecake

Haha PFT just reported the skins may be interested in Mallett. Obviously not something to take seriously, but definitely ironic. Shanny smoke machine running well...

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Woah seriously?!....maybe we need to start some fresh new threads because people seem to be posting lots of old stories.

[takethecake]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Woah seriously?!....maybe we need to start some fresh new threads because people seem to be posting lots of old stories.

Oh, woops haha. You're right Matty, I can never stay up to date on these gargantuan threads...

[Dirtbag59]

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The consensus this pre-draft season is that the Washington Redskins are going to try and land a quarterback at some point during the draft next weekend. Whether that's at their current draft position (No. 10), higher or lower remains to be seen. The 'Skins have been rumored to be trying to move both directions in the first round, and a logical case can be made for either side of that debate. In the minds of many, athletic QBs like Jake Locker, Christian Ponder and Colin Kaepernick appear to make the most sense as the apple of Mike Shanahan's eye.

But during Monday night's edition of "Path to the Draft" on the NFL Network, analyst Michael Lombardi reported that the Redskins have serious interest in drafting Ryan Mallett (a decidedly non-fleet-footed QB), and would do so even with the No. 10 pick, according to a source. (H/T to Evan Silva of Pro Football Talk for the grab).

For his part, Lombardi foresees Mallett going somewhere in the Top 20, though Doug Farrar of Football Outsiders brings up a salient point in the wake of the report. "Re: Lombardi's take on Mallett -- he loves big-armed QBs and wanted to hire [Arkansas coach Bobby] Petrino for Raiders. Not saying to discount, but watch for bias."

Lombardi isn't the only person talking up Mallett as a first-rounder, though. ESPN.com's Elizabeth Merrill had a tough time finding anyone to say a bad thing about the QB in Arkansas -- meaning that the off-field character concerns might be a shade overblown. ESPN SEC blogger Chris Low thinks that eventually, Mallett will quell the doubters:

- Tim Kavanagh


Chris Low
Mallett's skills are top notch
"Ultimately, it's all going to play out on the field, and on the field, Mallett has showed that he's a first-round talent. Now we'll see if somebody in the NFL thinks so."

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by takethecake

Oh, woops haha. You're right Matty, I can never stay up to date on these gargantuan threads...

Contrary to popular belief, Matty and I are not the same person

[SmootSmack]

If Quinn isn't there at 10 (I think it's really about 50/50 right now), hopefully we can trade down a few spots and still get a top QB and another pick.

Without free agency we're probably looking at Rex being our starting guy going into the season and maybe Locker backing him up? Maybe not ideal, but not terrible either I suppose. All depends on how good Locker can be

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

If Quinn isn't there at 10 (I think it's really about 50/50 right now), hopefully we can trade down a few spots and still get a top QB and another pick.

Without free agency we're probably looking at Rex being our starting guy going into the season and maybe Locker backing him up? Maybe not ideal, but not terrible either I suppose. All depends on how good Locker can be

If we really want a particular QB and our preferred QB is there at 10, I think we've got to take him at that spot because there is too much risk that he won't get past Minnesota, Miami, and Jacksonville.

Either we take our guy at 10 or we accept the possibility that we won't get our QB of the future in this draft and trade down with the idea of getting more picks to improve other positions.

Either of these plans would work for me.

[skinsfaninok]

If SS is right about our OLine FA prospects the I wouldn't mind drafting Mallett at all in this draft.. He's shown when he has time how good of a QB he can be

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If SS is right about our OLine FA prospects the I wouldn't mind drafting Mallett at all in this draft.. He's shown when he has time how good of a QB he can be

Well I mean we're definitely targeting Joseph and Harris and I wouldn't be surprised to see them both on the roster once FA gets resolved, but I don't think even those additions make us the type of OL that merits bringing in someone like Mallet.

Really if not Locker or Ponder, I'd rather just wait until the middle to late rounds and maybe get someone like Stanzi or McElroy (neither of which are franchise guys in my opinion)

[skinsfaninok]

He's got a quicker release than people think, I'd take a chance on him