The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Dan73

You get excited after one game fine. You do it in practices or at the GM after a game and it begins to show a problem.

Drafting 2 rookie QBs the same year seemed to set this up.

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Jeez, did you even take the time to read anything posted on the other 53 Kirk Cousins threads before you joined this board? History didn't start with you. Your revival of stuff we've covered a hundred times is very annoying. I can't believe that other posters are actually going over this same stuff again and again with you. It's as if we've been listening to In a Gadda Da Vita continuously for fifty years. Plus, you're probably going to break the all-time posting record for someone in his first month on the board by re-hashing all this ancient history. He's gone. We've replaced him. You can stop trashing the man now.

[Dan73]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Jeez, did you even take the time to read the other 53 Kirk Cousins threads before you joined this board? History didn't start with you. Your revival of stuff we've covered a hundred times is very annoying. I can't believe that other posters are actually going over this same stuff again and again with you. It's as if we've been listening to In a Gadda Da Vita continuously for fifty years. Plus, you're probably going to break the all-time posting record for someone in his first month on the board by re-hashing all this ancient history. He's gone. We've replaced him. You can stop trashing the man now.

Do you feel better?

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

....you forgot to add in tagging him, twice and yes.

only if you don't look at the post I made that led to your post that I responded to.


But whatever. This "Final" thread has moved to the too many pages to load right, so sadly, it won't be the final thread.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Dan73

Do you feel better?

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I welcome your other posts. You've had some good ones.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So sitting behind a number 2 overall pick for 2 years qualifies as the Skins doin him wrong 5 years later. Nah.

Without seeing the full discussion, I think you're oversimplifying it here. Skins did him dirty by never offering him a fair deal until they were backed into a corner. When it was time for the two parties to meet and negotiate fairly the Skins tried to be cheap and it cost them.

But it's done now, so we have to move on. We have Alex Smith, who clearly wants to be here.

G1, I meant that for all the PC talk Kirk did (I'm leaving it to my agent, I don't want to talk contracts right now, etc.) he never came out and said "I want to be here long-term." Even Chris Thompson was talking about how he never got that feeling from him.

I think the timeline was something along the lines of: Kirk finally clicks as a starter, we cheap on the initial offer, Kirk feels slighted, probably doesn't feel wanted by the FO esp. after McC leaves, decides to only play for us if we keep tagging him which we do until it becomes untenable. Now he will walk in FA and if the lack of suitors is to be believed, probably goes to Denver on something like AAV of 27ish mil a year, which will lead to fans talking about how he didn't get 30 (which seems outlandish given I haven't seen any credible projections saying he could get 30 a year). I think worst case scenario, he takes 25ish a year to go to Denver. Best case scenario who the hell knows. Median prob 27 a year. I'm just saying even after the huge Jimmy G. deal this year I don't see Kirk blowing that out the water.

[Dan73]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I welcome your other posts. You've had some good ones.

Thanks for letting me know that my other post are ok by you.

By the way Kirk is only part of the problem with what happened. His agent who used to be an Eagles personnel guy I also hold responsible and Shanahan.

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

Without seeing the full discussion, I think you're oversimplifying it here. Skins did him dirty by never offering him a fair deal until they were backed into a corner. When it was time for the two parties to meet and negotiate fairly the Skins tried to be cheap and it cost them.

But it's done now, so we have to move on. We have Alex Smith, who clearly wants to be here.

G1, I meant that for all the PC talk Kirk did (I'm leaving it to my agent, I don't want to talk contracts right now, etc.) he never came out and said "I want to be here long-term." Even Chris Thompson was talking about how he never got that feeling from him.

I think the timeline was something along the lines of: Kirk finally clicks as a starter, we cheap on the initial offer, Kirk feels slighted, probably doesn't feel wanted by the FO esp. after McC leaves, decides to only play for us if we keep tagging him which we do until it becomes untenable. Now he will walk in FA and if the lack of suitors is to be believed, probably goes to Denver on something like AAV of 27ish mil a year, which will lead to fans talking about how he didn't get 30 (which seems outlandish given I haven't seen any credible projections saying he could get 30 a year). I think worst case scenario, he takes 25ish a year to go to Denver. Best case scenario who the hell knows. Median prob 27 a year. I'm just saying even after the huge Jimmy G. deal this year I don't see Kirk blowing that out the water.

With over 1000 posts in this topic I think all the points on all the sides have been overly expanded on, so if I simplify at this point, c'est la vie. The FO isn't blameless but KC isn't either.

15 days...

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

With over 1000 posts in this topic I think all the points on all the sides have been overly expanded on, so if I simplify at this point, c'est la vie. The FO isn't blameless but KC isn't either.

15 days...

we agree,see that wasn't hard.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Jeez, did you even take the time to read anything posted on the other 53 Kirk Cousins threads before you joined this board? History didn't start with you. Your revival of stuff we've covered a hundred times is very annoying. I can't believe that other posters are actually going over this same stuff again and again with you. It's as if we've been listening to In a Gadda Da Vita continuously for fifty years. Plus, you're probably going to break the all-time posting record for someone in his first month on the board by re-hashing all this ancient history. He's gone. We've replaced him. You can stop trashing the man now.

IN A GADDA DA VITA! LOL, love it!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Dan73

Do you feel better?

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Being a jerk won’t help your cause here either.

[KI Skins Fan]

Dan73,

I apologize for blaming you for reviving this thread. My uncalled for comments about your posts were simply not true. This thread has a life of its own and it would have continued if you had never posted on it.

But that's not the point. The point is I was wrong to direct any criticism towards you at all. Just because I want to move on from Kirk doesn't mean that anyone else should feel the way I do. I shouldn't have clicked on this thread to begin with and I certainly shouldn't have posted anything at all about what you choose to post.

From now on, I'll strive to keep my mind open and my mouth shut about other posters.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Hopefully on March 7th this thread can be closed as he will officially have no chance of being part of the team and any further discussion about him can be in the general NFL thread where every othere non Skins story is discussed.

[MTK]

lol at anyone who thinks Cousins talk ends on March 7

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

lol at anyone who thinks Cousins talk ends on March 7

For real. I still see people bring up Jason Campbell every now and then.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

lol at anyone who thinks Cousins talk ends on March 7

I have a parlay riding on it