Norv Turner Era: Success or Failure?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

Were you sleeping through this past season? LOL

Difference is we were never a true contender this year... starting a season 7-1 and not making the playoffs is about as heartbreaking as it can get.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Difference is we were never a true contender this year... starting a season 7-1 and not making the playoffs is about as heartbreaking as it can get.

Now that the season is over we know the skins were never a true contender but in August everyone was talking about the Super Bowl and never gave up on the playoffs until it really was over.

This team went deep in the playoffs last year and the core of that team returned along with the HoF coach and for this team to not even win 7 games is more than a disappointment, its a disgrace.

[70Chip]

I always liked Norv and he was a great play caller.

However, he lacks the domineering personality necessary to be a succesful head coach. The only Cowboys fan who should be happy to see Norv go to Dallas is Jerry Jones. Jones will be the de facto coach with Norv holding the title but basically running the offense. That's what Cowboys fans should realize. If you hire Norv, you're really hiring Jerry.

Having said that, he will move the football with the players they have down there. No doubt about it.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

This is a bit off topic but I didn't want to start another cowboys thread, but I found this article from espn.com pretty interesting. ESPN.com - NFL - Turner still Cowboys' front-runner, wants control of staff

If they hire Norv and he gets to pick his own staff, what happens with Garrett if doesn't figure into Norv's plan? I would guess that this could mean that old Norvall might lose favor with the team.

[MTK]

The "real coach" in Dallas is already assembling his staff.

LOL what a joke.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The "real coach" in Dallas is already assembling his staff.

LOL what a joke.

You're right about that. I can't imagine that any front office would think it's a good idea to start bringing in new assistant coaches when you don't even have a head coach yet, but I guess that's what's going on down there.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The "real coach" in Dallas is already assembling his staff.

LOL what a joke.

Yep, he's been the "real coach" since he told Jimmy Johnson to take a hike, er, since Jimmy Johnson resigned. Parcells is the only coach there to have even a little control.

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The "real coach" in Dallas is already assembling his staff.

LOL what a joke.

You know, I used to think the same thing.

But then I thought, this guy has made himself a Billionaire, has maintained and increased the value and recognition of the franchise, played D1 ball at arkansas or OK - I can't remember which....

Maybe he isn't so dumb?

How does it work in other franchises? Don't most owners have a great deal of influence on the decisions of their GM and Coach?

I don't know. I think that Norv isn't the answer, at the same time I don't think that Jerry is a complete idiot. Just don't let him Draft anyone and have a personnel guy watch his moves.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

You know, I used to think the same thing.

But then I thought, this guy has made himself a Billionaire, has maintained and increased the value and recognition of the franchise, played D1 ball at arkansas or OK - I can't remember which....

Maybe he isn't so dumb?

How does it work in other franchises? Don't most owners have a great deal of influence on the decisions of their GM and Coach?

I don't know. I think that Norv isn't the answer, at the same time I don't think that Jerry is a complete idiot. Just don't let him Draft anyone and have a personnel guy watch his moves.

He's obviously not an idiot, but he is a media hound for sure. I think his biggest problem is his lack of character. I mean how can someone like him sleep at night knowing he fired a legend and beloved figure like Tom Landry?

[56FAN]

a big fat F.i got soo tired of our skins showing up for big games flatter than a pancake.his offense was good but his in ability to bring a team together into a single focused unit is well documented.good coordinator, terrible head coach.

[vaoutlaws2006]

all you here seem to secretly love snyder some much it makes me sick. norv brought us our first. divison title since 1991 and all you people do is take the side of that moron snyder. i guess you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by vaoutlaws2006

all you here seem to secretly love snyder some much it makes me sick. norv brought us our first. divison title since 1991 and all you people do is take the side of that moron snyder. i guess you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink.

I used to be a Snyder fan...NO longer..I don't like that spoiled brat at all now!!!

[Monkeydad]

At the time, I thought Turner was a failure...but THEN the Spurrier era happened and I was wishing we still had Turner. Yuck.

He's not going to improve Dallas in my opinion. It's a shallow year for coaching prospects though and he's probably the best they can do on such short notice though.

It'll be fun beating the Cowboys twice next year.

[celts32]

Norv is the worst available candidate becasue he is a proven failure. There are a number of qualified coordinators that deserve a chance to be a head coach over that retread. We assume there are no good candidates because the media is not spouting off about anyone inparticular other than the Pittsburgh guys and Ron Rivera.

[freddyg12]

What will be interesting to see is if JJ gives in to his demands of having his own staff, or tells him hell no. Or somewhere in between; maybe Norv will cave in if the money is good.