Its time for joe to step down.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This is exactly why this thread is, in the words of Schneed10, retarded. How stupid would it have been if after the Lions game I posted a thread that said "Give Joe a 5 Year Extension"? Just as stupid and knee-jerk as this one is.

Notice how this "retarded" thread has a 150 more posts than the other "smart" threads that came up after this game. Despite a third of the posts being personal attacks, much more interesting perspectives here than "$hit the refs fucked us" and "McCardell catch that wasn't ruled a catch."

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Notice how this "retarded" thread has a 150 more posts than the other "smart" threads that came up after this game. Despite a third of the posts being personal attacks, much more interesting perspectives here than "$hit the refs fucked us" and "McCardell catch that wasn't ruled a catch."

So, you're saying retardation is much more interesting than being smart?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Notice how this "retarded" thread has a 150 more posts than the other "smart" threads that came up after this game. Despite a third of the posts being personal attacks, much more interesting perspectives here than "$hit the refs fucked us" and "McCardell catch that wasn't ruled a catch."

Interesting perspectives? Sure, whatever floats your boat

[kdwalker@walker-supply.co]

We don't need to scream for Gibb's job at this point. He is not getting the job done and everybody knows it. Let the season play out and he will probably step down. Do you really thing this team is going to beat the Cowboys even once. Nothing has changed with this team since Snyder took over. A lot of it isn't Gibb's fault. But there are some consistent issues that haven't gone away since he's been here. Good game for Jason Campbell today!

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by kdwalker@walker-supply.co

We don't need to scream for Gibb's job at this point. He is not getting the job done and everybody knows it. Let the season play out and he will probably step down. Do you really thing this team is going to beat the Cowboys even once. Nothing has changed with this team since Snyder took over. A lot of it isn't Gibb's fault. But there are some consistent issues that haven't gone away since he's been here. Good game for Jason Campbell today!

Not sure everyone knows that Gibbs isn't getting the job done in his second stint. That said - in complete agreement - the old man will step down at the end of a playoffless season.

[skinsfan0201]

BS imo after a game no trust or belief, I am dissappointed to but wasn't everyone calling for Andy Reid and McNabb's head last week in Philly. Fair weather fans!!!!

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

BS imo after a game no trust or belief, I am dissappointed to but wasn't everyone calling for Andy Reid and McNabb's head last week in Philly. Fair weather fans!!!!

Fair weather fans, are you friggin kidding me. I have watched this team underachieve for the last 15 years, I think we deserve a little more than 2 playoff appearences since 1992. If they were calling for Andy Reid and McNabbs head last week and they were able to come to FedEx field and beat the Redskins at home, what does that say about the Redskins?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Not sure everyone knows that Gibbs isn't getting the job done in his second stint. That said - in complete agreement - the old man will step down at the end of a playoffless season.

Yeah and next year you'll be whining about who our coach will be in 2009. They should start a new web site for fans like you and others that want Gibbs gone. WHINERSPATH.com

Maybe we should separate this website for real fans, not fair weather fans. Either you support the Redskins thru thick or thin or quit being a Redskins fan.

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yeah and next year you'll be whining about who our coach will be in 2009. They should start a new web site for fans like you and others that want Gibbs gone. WHINERSPATH.com

Maybe we should separate this website for real fans, not fair weather fans. Either you support the Redskins thru thick or thin or quit being a Redskins fan.

What the fuck? are you kidding me. You support them thru think or thin or quit being a redskins fan, get outta here. I have been a die hard Skins fan my entire life, I cant even remember the last time I missed a game and My whole week is ruined when they lose, but what your saying is taking it to far. I in no way support the awful redzone calls nor do I support coach Gibbs holding Jason Campbell back week after week. This is the same shit we went through with Spurrier and Turner. Marty Schottenheimer should still be this teams coach and everyone knows it, what he did with the little level of talent was pretty amazing. I am absolutely ready for a change. Try this shit in the business world, you either get the job done or they will get someone else who will. Your completely out of your mind with your rediculous rant that you must support the teams decisions or your a fair weather fan bullshit.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Your completely out of your mind with your rediculous rant that you must support the teams decisions or your a fair weather fan bullshit.

Yawn!!!!!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Z. Please pass the cheese and the chardonay, I'm a whiner.

[GMScud]

To ask for Gibbs to step down midseason is about as ignorant of a suggestion as I can think of. That being said, we're clearly a poorly coached team. I know SmootSmack always reverts back to blaming the players for miscues - dumb penalties, drops, etc. But when it happens week after week, and we blow games repeatedly, that's a symptom of the coaching staff. No question.

We couldn't come up with a play call to get us a TD when we had 7 chances inside the 10 yard line. We carve them up all day and then we totally stall? Gibbs HAS TO BE taking over playcalling inside the red zone. We waste a timeout early in the 3rd on 4th & 1 only to kick a FG anyway? That timeout could have challenged McCardell's catch late (ruled incomplete) in the 4th. The list goes on.

The overall lack of fire in all aspects, the rapidly collapsing defense, the lack of fundamentals and inability to close- that comes down to coaching. I don't give a shit if we sing koombaya in the locker room and if we "fight our guts out." I want to win. We've been griping about allowing big plays, dumb penalties, bad play calling, poor clock management, and bad offense since the 1st game of Gibbs' return.

Bottom line, Joe Gibbs part 2 isn't working. It's just not. We're 3 1/2 years in and have all the same problems we've had since he took over. Nothing is getting better (except our QB). Remember folks, aside from that 5 game run in '05, we've been lower tier team his entire second tenure. You can never go home again.

IMO this year's Redskins team is on the low end of average.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I know SmootSmack always reverts back to blaming the players for miscues - dumb penalties, drops, etc. But when it happens week after week, and we blow games repeatedly, that's a symptom of the coaching staff. No question.

We couldn't come up with a play call to get us a TD when we had 7 chances inside the 10 yard line.

Gibbs can't be absolved for everything, but watching the game today I didn't see coaching cost us the game. You say that they couldn't come up with a play to score, well if Cooley can keep his ass from jumping offsides then Thrash scores TD #3 and Skins win. I saw MULTIPLE times when the Skins had the chance to make plays to help win the game (Smoot penalty on the first drive, that long pass to Reggie Brown that Pierson had covered and if McNabb made a good throw he would have had it, the two INTs Godfrey dropped, Cooley jumping offsides). You can look to coaching in some of the games this year, but the players lost the game today. I saw guys in position to win the game and fail to make the plays. All a coach can do is put you in position to make plays, you have to make the plays. I am sick about this game, but I truly do not see how you blame the coaches, except maybe for the clock management that left them without Time Outs.

This reactionary BS after every loss drives me f'ing crazy. Why doesn't anyone ever jump on the players for their shitty plays? If you ask me, there were multiple plays that cost them the game, but if you wanted to make it really simple and look at one single play that cost them the game it was Cooley jumping offsides that cost them a TD to put them game away. Why isn't anyone jumping on Cooley for his mistake?

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Gibbs can't be absolved for everything, but watching the game today I didn't see coaching cost us the game. You say that they couldn't come up with a play to score, well if Cooley can keep his ass from jumping offsides then Thrash scores TD #3 and Skins win. I saw MULTIPLE times when the Skins had the chance to make plays to help win the game (Smoot penalty on the first drive, that long pass to Reggie Brown that Pierson had covered and if McNabb made a good throw he would have had it, the two INTs Godfrey dropped, Cooley jumping offsides). You can look to coaching in some of the games this year, but the players lost the game today. I saw guys in position to win the game and fail to make the plays. All a coach can do is put you in position to make plays, you have to make the plays. I am sick about this game, but I truly do not see how you blame the coaches, except maybe for the clock management that left them without Time Outs.

This reactionary BS after every loss drives me f'ing crazy. Why doesn't anyone ever jump on the players for their shitty plays? If you ask me, there were multiple plays that cost them the game, but if you wanted to make it really simple and look at one single play that cost them the game it was Cooley jumping offsides that cost them a TD to put them game away. Why isn't anyone jumping on Cooley for his mistake?

you cant be serious, Santana Moss was absolutely blasted after his game in Green Bay. Fans were asking for Portis' head before the past two games, the players are constantly rediculed while the coaching staff is left alone.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

you cant be serious, Santana Moss was absolutely blasted after his game in Green Bay. Fans were asking for Portis' head before the past two games, the players are constantly rediculed while the coaching staff is left alone.

I just don't really see any argument. Besides "he doesn't have that killer instinct" (what the hell does that mean exactly?) What is it exactly that Joe Gibbs did to lose the game today? I know everyone is pissed. I was pissed, my wife was pissed at me because I was such an asshole during the game, but I just don't see where you watched the game today and were like, Joe Gibbs has to go. Players didn't make plays. What genius play would you have called to score a TD inside of the 3 yard line? How could Gibbs have made different decisions to win the game? What exactly was it that Gibbs did to cost the Skins the game? I saw a bunch of players fail to make plays but I didn't see a coaching staff lose a game.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Gibbs can't be absolved for everything, but watching the game today I didn't see coaching cost us the game. You say that they couldn't come up with a play to score, well if Cooley can keep his ass from jumping offsides then Thrash scores TD #3 and Skins win. I saw MULTIPLE times when the Skins had the chance to make plays to help win the game (Smoot penalty on the first drive, that long pass to Reggie Brown that Pierson had covered and if McNabb made a good throw he would have had it, the two INTs Godfrey dropped, Cooley jumping offsides). You can look to coaching in some of the games this year, but the players lost the game today. I saw guys in position to win the game and fail to make the plays. All a coach can do is put you in position to make plays, you have to make the plays. I am sick about this game, but I truly do not see how you blame the coaches, except maybe for the clock management that left them without Time Outs.

This reactionary BS after every loss drives me f'ing crazy. Why doesn't anyone ever jump on the players for their shitty plays? If you ask me, there were multiple plays that cost them the game, but if you wanted to make it really simple and look at one single play that cost them the game it was Cooley jumping offsides that cost them a TD to put them game away. Why isn't anyone jumping on Cooley for his mistake?

First off SC, every week I jump on the players. But I said I'm tired of excuses. And when week in and week out we have clock management issues, questionable play calling, and basic fundamental breakdowns, and all we do is say, "well if this and if that..." IF WHAT?? We didn't get it done AGAIN, we didn't close out a game we had in hand AGAIN, and at some point that has to fall squarely in the lap of the coaching staff. It's the same shit over and over again. And it's been that way for 3+ years.