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A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

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View Poll Results: If Campbell is ready to return for the playoffs (assuming we make it), who starts?
Collins 154 87.50%
Campbell 22 12.50%
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Old 12-25-2007, 11:28 PM   #1
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

I saw on ESPN that Campbell would be 50/50 by the time our first playoff game would be played. I would like to think that Gibbs would not play Campbell unless he was 100%. That being said, does anyone really think that Gibbs would undercut Collins for Campbell after Collins rolled off 5 straight games? (4 to end the season and 1 playoff)
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Old 12-27-2007, 08:15 AM   #2
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

Even if JC is 100% for the playoffs there is no way he can be the starter. Collins gives this team the best chance to win right now.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:15 AM   #3
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

At this moment in time, the ball belongs in Collins' hands. He has helped resurrect this team from the "dead", and if he continues to to be the hot hand, you have to play him.

Even if Jason Campbell starts his way back today, he still wouldn't be ready for this Sunday or next, and would most likely not be ready for a Division Weekend game. He'll have the entire offseason once again to continue his learning of the offense, and once training camp starts in '08, he'll have the reigns and hopefully Saunders will open up the playbook some more.

It's all about the best chance to win right now. And right now, Todd Collins gives this team the best chance to win.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:19 AM   #4
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

Look at how the 1972 Dolphins (17-0) handled it.

No one expected what the young team accomplished in 1972. A promising campaign seemingly was lost when starting quarterback Bob Griese went down with a broken leg during just the fifth game of the season. However, the Dolphins rallied behind journeyman Earl Morrall and posted an unprecedented 17-0 record, culminated by a 14-7 victory, Griese's first full game back, over the Washington Redskins in Super Bowl VII.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:20 AM   #5
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

Right now, I'm 100% behind Todd Collins. But, what if Todd Collins comes out and lays an egg against Dallas? I might waffle if he falters.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:21 AM   #6
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

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Right now, I'm 100% behind Todd Collins. But, what if Todd Collins comes out and lays an egg against Dallas? I might waffle if he falters.
If that happens the season is probably over and it's back to Campbell for next year.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:25 AM   #7
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If that happens the season is probably over and it's back to Campbell for next year.
Probably. But what if this team wins next week in spite of Collins? Collins deserves a LOT of credit for stepping up and playing like a Pro Bowler off the bench. But I'm not totally sold just yet. He's played 2 great games. I'm not so sure that 2 near perfect performances justifies putting so much faith in him. If he doesn't play well this Sunday, I'll be torn about which QB should start.
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Old 12-27-2007, 03:14 PM   #8
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

Funny how this team seemed to jell when Collins took over. The WR's, running game, O line, and the only thing that really changed was the QB. I'm not saying Collins should be our starter next year and/or JC is not that good I'm just saying that right now TC is getting the job done. So do we want JC who lost his last 4 games as our starter or TC the winner of the past 4 games (assuming we win to get to the playoffs) leading our team. Thats not that tough of a choice if you ask me. We have to go with the hot hand.
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Old 12-27-2007, 03:28 PM   #9
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

i kind of disagree with you firstdown. while i do think the offensive line is jelling, i think all of our skill position players (not counting Campbell) have gotten healthy together. i read a good article in the post by J.L.C that pretty much said that Moss and Portis are the healthiest they have been all season right now. sorry, i don't have a link
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Old 12-27-2007, 09:07 PM   #10
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

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i kind of disagree with you firstdown. while i do think the offensive line is jelling, i think all of our skill position players (not counting Campbell) have gotten healthy together. i read a good article in the post by J.L.C that pretty much said that Moss and Portis are the healthiest they have been all season right now. sorry, i don't have a link
That Is what I think...While TC has played well.... The receivers are the healthiest they have all been since training camp.... Moss could barely run and ARE was injured and even Thash has been hurt...not to mention Sellers...all this was in place for the Bears game... and that had not happened since early in the season.... And Campbell won those games.... And also Portis is the healthiest.... So while TC has been good... Campbell hasn't been shaby... Every Commentator to the man thinks Campbell will be a sucess....
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Old 12-27-2007, 03:56 PM   #11
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

i say collins stays in cause look what he,s been able to do and the team for that matter even if campbell is ready to go...


you go with whats working now andcollins gets my vote...
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:07 PM   #12
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

This is an easy answer - Collins.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:45 PM   #13
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

I realize that the backup QB is usually the most popular man in Washington, D.C., but is anyone else reluctant to crown TC as a great QB? I really like what he has done in 2 of the 3 games in which he's played, but I'm still skeptical. If he plays lights out football against Dallas' starters and in the postseason, my opinion will change. Until then, I think it is too early to write the book on TC.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:19 PM   #14
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

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I realize that the backup QB is usually the most popular man in Washington, D.C., but is anyone else reluctant to crown TC as a great QB? I really like what he has done in 2 of the 3 games in which he's played, but I'm still skeptical. If he plays lights out football against Dallas' starters and in the postseason, my opinion will change. Until then, I think it is too early to write the book on TC.
Close to all of redskins fans (and most non-redskins fans) love Jason Campbell. But why not give Todd Collins some love. He's definitely earned it, especially the years that he has patiently waited. I think it's not a coindence that the team clicked when he came in.

Campbell is definitely the future, but milk Todd Collins for however long he is hot. And right now he has the hot hand or arm. I would be willing to keep him in there for years if that means the team is successful. It looks like both Saunders and Gibbs like veteran qbs in their system. When Campbell is a confident veteran and Collins is fading, put Campbell in there.
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Old 12-28-2007, 12:46 AM   #15
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Re: A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

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Close to all of redskins fans (and most non-redskins fans) love Jason Campbell. But why not give Todd Collins some love. He's definitely earned it, especially the years that he has patiently waited. I think it's not a coindence that the team clicked when he came in.

Campbell is definitely the future, but milk Todd Collins for however long he is hot. And right now he has the hot hand or arm. I would be willing to keep him in there for years if that means the team is successful. It looks like both Saunders and Gibbs like veteran qbs in their system. When Campbell is a confident veteran and Collins is fading, put Campbell in there.
Todd certainly is entitled to lots of praise; he's played about as well as one could hope and has greatly exceeded expectations. But, given his limited playing time during the regular season, I think it's probably a good idea to temper our expectations. He looks damn good and may continue to look good, but it's highly doubtful he will continue to post 100+ QB ratings.

I guess I've just seen us fans get sky high when we see cause for hope and then get depressed when things don't work out exactly how we wanted them to. I'm guardedly optimistic about Todd and, more generally, our offense's future.
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