Suisham = Momentum Killer

[BrunellMVP?]

i don't blame him alone (clearly) but I don't want to see him kicking for us again...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

i don't blame him alone (clearly) but I don't want to see him kicking for us again...

So let's say he makes the kick. 17-13. Who's to say Seattle doesn't go down and score 7 like they did after he missed the kick? How come all the fans here just can't give Seattle credit cause they were just better. Everyone is blaming the damn kicker. As Gibbs said, it never ever ever comes down to one play. And I don't want to hear about the momentum. Good teams don't send the kicker out when they get the ball on the 14 yard line. Well, he's coming out to kick the PAT. In a game of that importance you can't be kicking FG's when you get a gift like that. Bottom line is we just didn't get the job done.

[chantilly101]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

i don't blame him alone (clearly) but I don't want to see him kicking for us again...

I TOTALLY BLAME HIM FOR THE LOSS!!!!!!
not only could he have easily made it, he took all the momentum from the kickoff
away. Its not Cooley's fault at all. it was just a horrible pass straight towards the ground.

[DieHardSkin]

Suisham must go!!! If I was Dan, Suisham would've had to find his own way home.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I honestly think that if he makes that kick that the defense does not give up anmore points in the game, after he missed it all the life came out of the defense.

[celts32]

Suisham cost them the game...plain and simple. Playoffs are all about momentum...it took all day but they finally quieted the crowd and seazed control and suisham gave it all back to seattle with that shank.

Honorable mention...Cooley's drop a couple plays before the missed field goal was huge also...he should have caught that ball and gave them 1st and goal at the 2...Cooley did some other good things in the game though.

[MTK]

Reality check: Suisham isn't going anywhere and one play didn't cost us the game.

[hooskins]

Suisham is pretty good but how can you miss a 30 yarder? Matty I see what you are saying, but seriously dude you do not think this hurt our momentum? I simply cannot see how you can fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

I don't only blame him though, Saunders and play execution was terrible on that possession. If you are in the redzone in the playoffs you score no matter what, period. Cooley's drop, lack of blocking for Portis, Saunders' playcalling and Suisham's miss really really did kill us.

It is like how the Titans miss today killed their momentum and prevented it from being a 9-10 game they might have won.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Suisham is pretty good but how can you miss a 30 yarder? Matty I see what you are saying, but seriously dude you do not think this hurt our momentum? I simply cannot see how you can fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

I don't only blame him though, Saunders and play execution was terrible on that possession. If you are in the redzone in the playoffs you score no matter what, period. Cooley's drop, lack of blocking for Portis, Saunders' playcalling and Suisham's miss really really did kill us.

It is like how the Titans miss today killed their momentum and prevented it from being a 9-10 game they might have won.

Sure it hurt the momentum, but the entire game didn't hinge on that one play, that's my simple point.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sure it hurt the momentum, but the entire game didn't hinge on that one play, that's my simple point.

Understood.

Ok how about this: Let's talk about that entire possession. Do you feel the lack of drawing out any points from that possession severely hurt our chances of winning?

I do. But it isn't all Suisham's fault. It falls with Saunders, Cooley, blocking and overall execution on those plays.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Understood.

Ok how about this: Let's talk about that entire possession. Do you feel the lack of drawing out any points from that possession severely hurt our chances of winning?

I do. But it isn't all Suisham's fault. It falls with Saunders, Cooley, blocking and overall execution on those plays.

Absolutely agree with that. Don't forget Sellers being out of place and forcing a timeout

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Understood.

Ok how about this: Let's talk about that entire possession. Do you feel the lack of drawing out any points from that possession severely hurt our chances of winning?

I do. But it isn't all Suisham's fault. It falls with Saunders, Cooley, blocking and overall execution on those plays.

Of course, a TD and the game may have been over. Coming away with no points gave the Seahawks new life.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Suisham is pretty good but how can you miss a 30 yarder? Matty I see what you are saying, but seriously dude you do not think this hurt our momentum? I simply cannot see how you can fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

I don't only blame him though, Saunders and play execution was terrible on that possession. If you are in the redzone in the playoffs you score no matter what, period. Cooley's drop, lack of blocking for Portis, Saunders' playcalling and Suisham's miss really really did kill us.

It is like how the Titans miss today killed their momentum and prevented it from being a 9-10 game they might have won.

You hit it right on the head. I blame the offense for not punching it in from 14 yards out. I'm more mad about that than I am the missed FG. We also had two short yardage situations and couldn't get a yard. Two conversions would have kept drives alive. The execution by the offense was terrible all game long. I don't blame Saunders. I'm tired of using him as an excuse. I blame the players. The o-line, Moss and Cooley DID NOT get it done and Seattle was just better.

The winning streak was nice to get into the playoffs. But if we want to take it to the next level we need to start getting playoff games at home. The home field advantage clearly helped Seattle.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You hit it right on the head. I blame the offense for not punching it in from 14 yards out? I'm more mad about that than I am the missed FG. We also had two short yardage situations and couldn't get a yard. Two conversions would have kept drives alive. The execution by the offense was terrible all game long. I don't blame Saunders. I'm tired of using him as an excuse. I blame the players. The o-line, Moss and Cooley DID NOT get it done and Seattle was just better.

The winning streak was nice to get into the playoffs. But if we want to take it to the next level we need to start getting playoff games at home. The home field advantage clearly helped Seattle.

The Saunders system works, but it comes down to execution, and you are 100% correct - that falls on the players.

As for home field, we could have had at least one home playoff game this year if we just finished games. Hell, we didn't finish THIS playoff game with the lead, the ball, and great field position. Until Gibbs/Saunders diagnose our red zone deficiencies, we will continue to struggle in close games.

[htownskinfan]

how many times have you heard the phrase"that one play changed the game"? I've heard it a bunch of times,but theres no way to ever know.You could easily say cooleys drop before that changed the game,I think by far{and i dont see how anyone can argue this point}the biggest play that changed the game was Moss giving up on that pass and it being returned for a td,that gave them a 2 td lead and it was over then.Wait,i take that back,you could argue the point that wasnt the biggest play,it could have been in the first half when Moss was wide open and Collins was hit as he throws and underthrows him and Moss would have walked in for the td.You cant blame Suisham for the loss,but did the momentum switch when he missed? Definitely
do we need a better kicker? definitely
will we get one? probably not,theyre not that easy to come by