Seems like Cutler might be available.

skinsfan69 · 03-11-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I am not a JC hater...you will not find one thread in which I bashed him. I just think Cutler is an elite talent and when someone like Cutler at his age becomes available I think you should do whatever it takes to get him. I know we won in the past without great QB's but in this era the teams that win 10+ games year in and year out all seem to have a franchise QB. I hope JC becomes a franchise QB but I think Cutler has shown enough to say that he already is one. I want him...and I would pay a steep price to get him.

I doubt Denver is that stupid to get rid of Cutler. If he and Josh McDaniels can't work it out I would fire JM before I trade Cutler. But let's say Denver asked us for JC and our number one pick for Cutler I'd make that deal in a second.

celts32 · 03-11-2009, 11:43 AM

I know you didn't...but there is a lot of JC hating going around and I just wanted to make it clear that my interest in getting Cutler is more about what I think of Cutler then it is about just getting rid of JC.

It is steep but when it comes down to it I would pay that price and maybe even more. The Redskins have not had a franchise QB since 1981...and when it comes down to it what are a few draft picks worth when compared to 10 years of great QB play?

skinsfan69 · 03-11-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I know you didn't...but there is a lot of JC hating going around and I just wanted to make it clear that my interest in getting Cutler is more about what I think of Cutler then it is about just getting rid of JC.

It is steep but when it comes down to it I would pay that price and maybe even more. The Redskins have not had a franchise QB since 1981...and when it comes down to it what are a few draft picks worth when compared to 10 years of great QB play?

As much as I love Joe Theismann, he WAS NOT a franchise QB. I think the last truly great QB this town has seen was Sonny J.

MTK · 03-11-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I know you didn't...but there is a lot of JC hating going around and I just wanted to make it clear that my interest in getting Cutler is more about what I think of Cutler then it is about just getting rid of JC.

It is steep but when it comes down to it I would pay that price and maybe even more. The Redskins have not had a franchise QB since 1981...and when it comes down to it what are a few draft picks worth when compared to 10 years of great QB play?

And we think Vinny is crazy?

Yikes.

celts32 · 03-11-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And we think Vinny is crazy?

Yikes.

IMO Cutler is going to be great. When people talk about the best QB's in the league I think his name will come up quickly. Others may not think he's that good but assuming that is true...how many draft picks do you think that is worth? How many draft picks would you have payed for say Marino, Elway, Manning even McNabb as they were entering their prime? A player like this just doesn't become available. Teams just don't trade away potential franchise QB's in their early to mid 20's...they trade them at 30+ when they are used up...this situation is unheard of. More then 2 #1 picks seems crazy for just about any player in the league but not for a franchise QB entering his prime. The reason you think its crazy is because teams don't trade players like this so there is no president to fall back on.

Eknox · 03-11-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And we think Vinny is crazy?

Yikes.

I second your opinion Matty, why don't we just give away all our draft picks for this guy ...lol (vinnie looking smart compared to some of these posts we need to get young, not give away more picks)

celts32 · 03-11-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eknox

I second your opinion Matty, why don't we just give away all our draft picks for this guy ...lol (vinnie looking smart compared to some of these posts we need to get young, not give away more picks)

I would give them all and then some...in a second. And normally I never suggest trading draft picks...but this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. I think we all just have a difference of opinion on how good Cutler is going to be.

celts32 · 03-11-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And we think Vinny is crazy?

Yikes.

Do we all agree that if Cutler went back in this draft he would go #1 overall? And if you believe reports then Detroit has already offered this pick for him. Assuming we agree then that #1 pick has a value of 3000 points on the trading chart the NFL teams use. The Redskins pick #13...so I started from there. This is about what it would take to get to the 3000:

#13 = 1150 points
#14 = 1100 points
#23 = 760 points

You can argue if Cutler as a player is worth it and if it's the right move for the redskins...but teams have payed this steep price to go up and get players before. The Giants for instance payed a steep price for Eli a few years ago.

MTK · 03-11-2009, 01:26 PM

You obviously place high value with Cutler, a QB who hasn't even won a playoff game in this league. If you're going to give up that much he better be a guy that leads you to multiple Super Bowls in the future. At this point I'm not ready to say he's that kind of guy.

celts32 · 03-11-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You obviously place high value with Cutler, a QB who hasn't even won a playoff game in this league. If you're going to give up that much he better be a guy that leads you to multiple Super Bowls in the future. At this point I'm not ready to say he's that kind of guy.

That's fair...and yes I do place that high value on Cutler. I think he is a QB that can lead a team to Super Bowls and if his team does not win Super Bowls I do not think it will be because of his play.

dmek25 · 03-12-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

That's fair...and yes I do place that high value on Cutler. I think he is a QB that can lead a team to Super Bowls and if his team does not win Super Bowls I do not think it will be because of his play.

where do you get this kind of faith from? oh, i know. all the national championship games that Vandy played in. some guys just know how to win. i think Cutler isn't one of them. probably end up with great stats, and no rings

GTripp0012 · 03-11-2009, 01:39 PM

I'd do Cutler for Campbell straight up. Throwing in high draft picks to sweeten a deal that Denver already has every incentive to do is just Portis-Bailey all over again.

celts32 · 03-11-2009, 01:56 PM

Denver would most likely have no interest in JC. It would be a draft pick trade with someone if Cutler was moved.

CRedskinsRule · 03-11-2009, 02:13 PM

I don't see how you can ignore the tantrum Cutler is throwing. According to reports(no link) he ignored calls from the OWNER of the Broncos. No way would I want him on a team I root for (which I root for Denver in the AFC and wish they could have traded him earlier). This is not what you want your QB/Offensive leader to be doing. Maybe JM handled it poorly, all the more reason a pro QB could and should understand the situation and work to better it. Not exacerbate it by hanging up on a conference call.
I doubt Cutler will ever rise above the crop, not due to onfield talent, but because of his me first attitude.

Rajmahal33 · 03-11-2009, 02:22 PM

This whole franchise QB issue is EXACTLY why we should have brought in Drew Brees when we had the opportunity a few years ago...

That guy was a no-brainer (even with the surgery) cuz he just knows how to make decisions. This is a very lofty statement but, given our personnel and Snyder's pocketbook, i am certain we would have made the playoffs every year if we would have signed him (regardless of the situation with our offensive line).

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MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,121	Re: Seems like Cutler might be available. You obviously place high value with Cutler, a QB who hasn't even won a playoff game in this league. If you're going to give up that much he better be a guy that leads you to multiple Super Bowls in the future. At this point I'm not ready to say he's that kind of guy. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-11-2009, 01:39 PM	#12
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: Seems like Cutler might be available. I'd do Cutler for Campbell straight up. Throwing in high draft picks to sweeten a deal that Denver already has every incentive to do is just Portis-Bailey all over again. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	Re: Seems like Cutler might be available. This whole franchise QB issue is EXACTLY why we should have brought in Drew Brees when we had the opportunity a few years ago... That guy was a no-brainer (even with the surgery) cuz he just knows how to make decisions. This is a very lofty statement but, given our personnel and Snyder's pocketbook, i am certain we would have made the playoffs every year if we would have signed him (regardless of the situation with our offensive line). __________________ McNasty FTW!

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03-11-2009, 11:43 AM	#2
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 55 Posts: 2,665	Re: Seems like Cutler might be available. I know you didn't...but there is a lot of JC hating going around and I just wanted to make it clear that my interest in getting Cutler is more about what I think of Cutler then it is about just getting rid of JC. It is steep but when it comes down to it I would pay that price and maybe even more. The Redskins have not had a franchise QB since 1981...and when it comes down to it what are a few draft picks worth when compared to 10 years of great QB play? __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

03-11-2009, 01:56 PM	#13
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 55 Posts: 2,665	Re: Seems like Cutler might be available. Denver would most likely have no interest in JC. It would be a draft pick trade with someone if Cutler was moved. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

03-11-2009, 02:13 PM	#14
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 59 Posts: 21,745	Re: Seems like Cutler might be available. I don't see how you can ignore the tantrum Cutler is throwing. According to reports(no link) he ignored calls from the OWNER of the Broncos. No way would I want him on a team I root for (which I root for Denver in the AFC and wish they could have traded him earlier). This is not what you want your QB/Offensive leader to be doing. Maybe JM handled it poorly, all the more reason a pro QB could and should understand the situation and work to better it. Not exacerbate it by hanging up on a conference call. I doubt Cutler will ever rise above the crop, not due to onfield talent, but because of his me first attitude.

Seems like Cutler might be available.

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