Pineapple Je5us (Colt Brennan tribute)

Lotus · 08-01-2009, 05:04 PM

To the folks who find the Colt imagery to be offensive, I apologize for myself and others. It is not good to feel like what is sacred to you is being dragged through the mud. People should be sensitive about this.

However, the intent was never to denigrate Jesus. Symbols related to Jesus were borrowed but Jesus was never depicted in a bad light. Jesus was not personally attacked. People did not intend to mock Jesus at all but rather to mock other people. People were trying to have fun and were not seeking to cause offense.

I self-identify as a Buddhist. I would not mind if the imagery were "Pineapple Buddha," including an image of Colt sitting under the tree of enlightenment. I would know that it all was in fun. However, something would be lost, because part of the mockery of people who lionize Colt concerns the idea that he is our football savior, and the Buddha clearly stated that he was not a savior.

I encourage everyone to be respectful of religious sensibilities of others. And I encourage those who were offended by the Colt imagery to change their attitude from outrage to disapproving.

Schneed10 · 08-01-2009, 01:32 PM

As for "me being me", first let me apologize for the harshness. I had a few beers in me last night, which led to the childishness. That's no excuse, of course. I do tend to come down on this kind of thing when I think it's warranted, but I can probably deride someone without calling names and such.

I don't want some sort of different treatment from the mods when it comes to the forum guidelines. I get what SS is saying, to maintain the site as a civil place, me calling someone an idiot doesn't help matters. So my bad, I take back the name calling. Skinznut I apologize.

However, let me say, and I think it's a fair point, that the mods didn't take any action here because on some level public derision of skinsnut was called for. Not the name-calling, but he definitely deserved to have it publicly noted that his opinion was ridiculous. He deserved to be painted as someone who failed to think.

I've been banned before. I won't go into specifics, but Matty leveled the boom on me because I was both breaking the forum guidelines and being unreasonable. And it was a fair move. In this case, I broke the forum guidelines. Now I'm not saying whether or not Matty or the mods thought I was being reasonable, but all I know is I see a big difference from this instance and the time I got banned.

So, sorry for the namecalling. I'll do better to keep that stuff out of the forums.

DBUCHANON101 · 08-01-2009, 01:40 PM

Imstarting a new group. its called
P-eople
O-ffended
B-y
O-ffended
P-eople
entry to this exclusive group is free. ppl with thin skin need not apply.
Seriously guys, im sure we all come from different backgrounds and the only thing that draws us here is our common love and support for our team. Most of us will never meet face to face and if you are going to be so easily offended by a person you dont know and will never see then you are not NET TOUGH and need to find a different way to show your support.

Schneed10 · 08-01-2009, 01:49 PM

This thread is now officially gay.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 08-01-2009, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This thread is now officially gay.

Ultimate hypocrisy, coming from the king of useless things, but i'm with you.

Gay AND now defunct thread.

Rajmahal's post wins for massive pineapple references.

DBUCHANON101 · 08-01-2009, 02:03 PM

When i come on here i know what im getting into. I know that when it comes to something like our QB position thats where alot of us are divided. i expect to take alot of flak from the JC supporters and when i express my thoughts of him it usually leads to a heated discussion and to me its all in good fun. I dont get offended by anyone and I dont take it serious enough to the point where im going to ask that the convo end or that someone is banned. If you cant take the heat keep your @$$ out the kitchen.

SkinsFanSince91 · 08-01-2009, 02:27 PM

I just wanted to state my case, and just as I had suspected, the mods proved me to be right. They are just going to do what they want to do. The environment here on warpath is essentially hegemonic in nature. The guys at the top are gonna do what they want and say what they want without reproach, while the marginalizing the opinions of the few.

There is no longer any balance here. If one is offended, its a good chance its just gonna stay up there unless mods disapprove.

And as for Matty, you seem to be a pretty stand up guy. Objective in most cases that I have seen you comment on, but I am disappointed to say the least. Not only is the topic brushed off, but it is posted on your personal avatar. One could constitute that as a slap in the face, but its whatever.

Like I said, my case was stated, mods acted like expected, and the result will remain the same. So to all out there who may hold anything sacred, do not be surprised if one day you are in this position. Pleading your case only goes but so far on here, that is unless you are part of the hegemony.

This is my last post on this topic. I will trust the mods to do what is right.

MTK · 08-01-2009, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

I just wanted to state my case, and just as I had suspected, the mods proved me to be right. They are just going to do what they want to do. The environment here on warpath is essentially hegemonic in nature. The guys at the top are gonna do what they want and say what they want without reproach, while the marginalizing the opinions of the few.

There is no longer any balance here. If one is offended, its a good chance its just gonna stay up there unless mods disapprove.

And as for Matty, you seem to be a pretty stand up guy. Objective in most cases that I have seen you comment on, but I am disappointed to say the least. Not only is the topic brushed off, but it is posted on your personal avatar. One could constitute that as a slap in the face, but its whatever.

Like I said, my case was stated, mods acted like expected, and the result will remain the same. So to all out there who may hold anything sacred, do not be surprised if one day you are in this position. Pleading your case only goes but so far on here, that is unless you are part of the hegemony.

This is my last post on this topic. I will trust the mods to do what is right.

Guess I'll ask this again since you seemed to brush aside my response.

Where do we draw the line if we bow to the minority here? Anytime someone has a problem with something we're supposed to shut down threads and remove content? All for 1 or 2 people? Really?

ethat001 · 08-01-2009, 02:41 PM

I agree with skinsnut, and I'm not a religious fanatic. But I thought the comments in the other thread were offensive, but now there's an entire thread about this which is even more over the top.

The picture with thorns and Jesus in the title is pretty ridiculous. The thorned pinapple is pretty silly, but doesn't really belong in a conversation about football. "Ante, Christ" images? Are you serious? I'd imagine if there was a swastika, if there were indian scalps, if there were muslim symbols -- I wonder if the mods would respond then.

I'm discouraged everyone just make fun of skinsnut, and I'm disappointed that the moderators are so underwhelmingly apathetic.

I'm not sure if I'll visit this forum in the future. I had thought there were good informed points of view here, but clearly not worth it.

After all, it's just a game.

Rajmahal33 · 08-01-2009, 03:05 PM

As a person who loves pineapples, i am terribly offended. I demand that this thread be LOCKED. I furthermore demand that the culprits of all future suspicious pineapple-related comments be dealt with by catapult...

Seriously can't we all just get along. Theoretically by this thread closing logic, couldn't someone who is native american come on this site and insist that every thread/sig/whatever containing the moniker "redskins" be offensive to them and demand the thread be closed? RIDICULOUS

johno · 08-01-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajmahal33

As a person who loves pineapples, i am terribly offended. I demand that this thread be LOCKED. I furthermore demand that the culprits of all future suspicious pineapple-related comments be dealt with by catapult...

lolz too funny.

Ruhskins · 08-01-2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajmahal33

As a person who loves pineapples, i am terribly offended. I demand that this thread be LOCKED. I furthermore demand that the culprits of all future suspicious pineapple-related comments be dealt with by catapult...

Seriously can't we all just get along. Theoretically by this thread closing logic, couldn't someone who is native american come on this site and insist that every thread/sig/whatever containing the moniker "redskins" be offensive to them and demand the thread be closed? RIDICULOUS

This message has been brought to you by PETOP (People for the Ethical Treatment of Pinneapples).

NM Redskin · 08-01-2009, 03:10 PM

We are growing too serious, and let me tell you, that's the very next step to being dull.

wilsowilso · 08-01-2009, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethat001

I'm discouraged everyone just make fun of skinsnut, and I'm disappointed that the moderators are so underwhelmingly apathetic. .

Why even bother to post if you are going to say some garbage like "everyone just make fun of skinsnut" because that's not at all what happened.

Read the thread again.

Or look up the word "everyone" in the dictionary.

rypper11 · 08-01-2009, 04:26 PM

If you try hard enough you can find offense in anything.
I would never buy a Pineapple Jesus t-shirt (or an F*&^ Dallas shirt for that matter) but to censor someones right to express it is the offensive part. In today's world people want the freedom to say what they want and never hear any other views. The only difference between Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern is which side of the extreme you favor.
However, one thing I've always liked about this site is the disagreements without namecalling and personal attacks. IMHO, this was the only line that was crossed.

08-01-2009, 05:04 PM	#1
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Pineapple Je5us (Colt Brennan tribute) To the folks who find the Colt imagery to be offensive, I apologize for myself and others. It is not good to feel like what is sacred to you is being dragged through the mud. People should be sensitive about this. However, the intent was never to denigrate Jesus. Symbols related to Jesus were borrowed but Jesus was never depicted in a bad light. Jesus was not personally attacked. People did not intend to mock Jesus at all but rather to mock other people. People were trying to have fun and were not seeking to cause offense. I self-identify as a Buddhist. I would not mind if the imagery were "Pineapple Buddha," including an image of Colt sitting under the tree of enlightenment. I would know that it all was in fun. However, something would be lost, because part of the mockery of people who lionize Colt concerns the idea that he is our football savior, and the Buddha clearly stated that he was not a savior. I encourage everyone to be respectful of religious sensibilities of others. And I encourage those who were offended by the Colt imagery to change their attitude from outrage to disapproving. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

08-01-2009, 01:32 PM	#2
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Pineapple Je5us (Colt Brennan tribute) As for "me being me", first let me apologize for the harshness. I had a few beers in me last night, which led to the childishness. That's no excuse, of course. I do tend to come down on this kind of thing when I think it's warranted, but I can probably deride someone without calling names and such. I don't want some sort of different treatment from the mods when it comes to the forum guidelines. I get what SS is saying, to maintain the site as a civil place, me calling someone an idiot doesn't help matters. So my bad, I take back the name calling. Skinznut I apologize. However, let me say, and I think it's a fair point, that the mods didn't take any action here because on some level public derision of skinsnut was called for. Not the name-calling, but he definitely deserved to have it publicly noted that his opinion was ridiculous. He deserved to be painted as someone who failed to think. I've been banned before. I won't go into specifics, but Matty leveled the boom on me because I was both breaking the forum guidelines and being unreasonable. And it was a fair move. In this case, I broke the forum guidelines. Now I'm not saying whether or not Matty or the mods thought I was being reasonable, but all I know is I see a big difference from this instance and the time I got banned. So, sorry for the namecalling. I'll do better to keep that stuff out of the forums. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

08-01-2009, 01:40 PM	#3
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Pineapple Je5us (Colt Brennan tribute) Imstarting a new group. its called P-eople O-ffended B-y O-ffended P-eople entry to this exclusive group is free. ppl with thin skin need not apply. Seriously guys, im sure we all come from different backgrounds and the only thing that draws us here is our common love and support for our team. Most of us will never meet face to face and if you are going to be so easily offended by a person you dont know and will never see then you are not NET TOUGH and need to find a different way to show your support. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

08-01-2009, 01:49 PM	#4
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Pineapple Je5us (Colt Brennan tribute) This thread is now officially gay. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

08-01-2009, 02:03 PM	#6
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Pineapple Je5us (Colt Brennan tribute) When i come on here i know what im getting into. I know that when it comes to something like our QB position thats where alot of us are divided. i expect to take alot of flak from the JC supporters and when i express my thoughts of him it usually leads to a heated discussion and to me its all in good fun. I dont get offended by anyone and I dont take it serious enough to the point where im going to ask that the convo end or that someone is banned. If you cant take the heat keep your @$$ out the kitchen. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

08-01-2009, 02:27 PM	#7
SkinsFanSince91 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 368	Re: Pineapple Je5us (Colt Brennan tribute) I just wanted to state my case, and just as I had suspected, the mods proved me to be right. They are just going to do what they want to do. The environment here on warpath is essentially hegemonic in nature. The guys at the top are gonna do what they want and say what they want without reproach, while the marginalizing the opinions of the few. There is no longer any balance here. If one is offended, its a good chance its just gonna stay up there unless mods disapprove. And as for Matty, you seem to be a pretty stand up guy. Objective in most cases that I have seen you comment on, but I am disappointed to say the least. Not only is the topic brushed off, but it is posted on your personal avatar. One could constitute that as a slap in the face, but its whatever. Like I said, my case was stated, mods acted like expected, and the result will remain the same. So to all out there who may hold anything sacred, do not be surprised if one day you are in this position. Pleading your case only goes but so far on here, that is unless you are part of the hegemony. This is my last post on this topic. I will trust the mods to do what is right. __________________ http://zstiojar.edu.pl/68560

08-01-2009, 02:41 PM	#9
ethat001 Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 920	Re: Pineapple Je5us (Colt Brennan tribute) I agree with skinsnut, and I'm not a religious fanatic. But I thought the comments in the other thread were offensive, but now there's an entire thread about this which is even more over the top. The picture with thorns and Jesus in the title is pretty ridiculous. The thorned pinapple is pretty silly, but doesn't really belong in a conversation about football. "Ante, Christ" images? Are you serious? I'd imagine if there was a swastika, if there were indian scalps, if there were muslim symbols -- I wonder if the mods would respond then. I'm discouraged everyone just make fun of skinsnut, and I'm disappointed that the moderators are so underwhelmingly apathetic. I'm not sure if I'll visit this forum in the future. I had thought there were good informed points of view here, but clearly not worth it. After all, it's just a game.

08-01-2009, 03:05 PM	#10
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	Re: Pineapple Je5us (Colt Brennan tribute) As a person who loves pineapples, i am terribly offended. I demand that this thread be LOCKED. I furthermore demand that the culprits of all future suspicious pineapple-related comments be dealt with by catapult... Seriously can't we all just get along. Theoretically by this thread closing logic, couldn't someone who is native american come on this site and insist that every thread/sig/whatever containing the moniker "redskins" be offensive to them and demand the thread be closed? RIDICULOUS __________________ McNasty FTW!

08-01-2009, 03:10 PM	#13
NM Redskin The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,014	Re: Pineapple Je5us (Colt Brennan tribute) We are growing too serious, and let me tell you, that's the very next step to being dull. __________________ Despite my solid 40 time and great intangibles I went undrafted AGAIN!

08-01-2009, 04:26 PM	#15
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,228	Re: Pineapple Je5us (Colt Brennan tribute) If you try hard enough you can find offense in anything. I would never buy a Pineapple Jesus t-shirt (or an F*&^ Dallas shirt for that matter) but to censor someones right to express it is the offensive part. In today's world people want the freedom to say what they want and never hear any other views. The only difference between Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern is which side of the extreme you favor. However, one thing I've always liked about this site is the disagreements without namecalling and personal attacks. IMHO, this was the only line that was crossed. __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

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