Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!

[#56fanatic]

Watching this display of "let me sit back and let a rookie dismantle us" defense, I couldn't help but wonder when Greg Blache starts getting on the hot seat attention. He has taken a once very aggressive, pressure built defense into a cover 2 bend not break kind of defense. Its absolutely incredible to have a rookie QB in his 3rd game pick us apart on 3rd down. They were something like 8 for 10 on 3rd down, that is unheard of. GW would have never let that happen. It would have been a constant diet of
blitz packages to confuse the kid and force him to make quick reads and get rid of the ball. I would be ashamed if I was him. He is also going to piss off his corners with remarks like "I didn't want to leave anyone by them selves against him" (referring to Calvin Johnson). what kind of confidence booster is that! freaking amazing they would rather have a rookie QB sit back in the pocket and pick apart a once proud D, than leave
Calvin one on one against a corner.

Blache...if you pressure the quarterback, they, especially rookies, with crap Oline and not so good receivers, you may get a turnover, a sack, an incomplete on 3rd down. I can't believe this shit, I am still steaming this morning.

[SC Skins Fan]

The only surprising thing is that it took a loss against the Lions to blow up the "we've got a great defense" myth. I can't even count the number of times someone in the media or on the team spouted off that the Redskins were the 4th rated defense in 2008, as if that made them elite. It is as if people do not have eyes in their head. Hell, even last week people were talking about how they "only" gave up 7 points to the Rams.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Watching this display of "let me sit back and let a rookie dismantle us" defense, I couldn't help but wonder when Greg Blache starts getting on the hot seat attention. He has taken a once very aggressive, pressure built defense into a cover 2 bend not break kind of defense. Its absolutely incredible to have a rookie QB in his 3rd game pick us apart on 3rd down. They were something like 8 for 10 on 3rd down, that is unheard of. GW would have never let that happen. It would have been a constant diet of
blitz packages to confuse the kid and force him to make quick reads and get rid of the ball. I would be ashamed if I was him. He is also going to piss off his corners with remarks like "I didn't want to leave anyone by them selves against him" (referring to Calvin Johnson). what kind of confidence booster is that! freaking amazing they would rather have a rookie QB sit back in the pocket and pick apart a once proud D, than leave
Calvin one on one against a corner.

Blache...if you pressure the quarterback, they, especially rookies, with crap Oline and not so good receivers, you may get a turnover, a sack, an incomplete on 3rd down. I can't believe this shit, I am still steaming this morning.

I agree...sort of. There should have been more blitzing. But he's in a tough position of coaching a defense where he has to try and keep the score down cause of an offense that has no ability to score points. My guess is that he ( and the rest of the defensive coaches) don't want to take chances because of this.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Since the defense has been the only thing we could hang our hat on for years, I will give them a pass.

Also, at the end of the day, they only gave up 19 points and 4 of those were given to Detroit by the head coach.

The long drives are troubling but honestly, if you hold the Lions to 19 points, you should be able to win that game.

[MTK]

I think it's time to forget about what the defense has done in the past and focus on what they're doing now, and that's not much.

They can't get off the field right now on 3rd downs, they've given up 100 yard rushers in back to back weeks, and the overall effort seems uninspired and lazy. There's a lot of blame to go around right now, nobody gets a pass in my book.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's time to forget about what the defense has done in the past and focus on what they're doing now, and that's not much.

They can't get off the field right now on 3rd downs, they've given up 100 yard rushers in back to back weeks, and the overall effort seems uninspired and lazy. There's a lot of blame to go around right now, nobody gets a pass in my book.

Flashy free agent signings and predominantly drafting skill positions are no way to build a team. I think the Skins have proven that by now. The next 3 drafts should be dedicated to drafting O-Line, D-Line, Linebackers and a franchise QB. Get a new coach and new GM and come up with a 3 year plan to restore this team to greatness... or at least to being respectable.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's time to forget about what the defense has done in the past and focus on what they're doing now, and that's not much.

They can't get off the field right now on 3rd downs, they've given up 100 yard rushers in back to back weeks, and the overall effort seems uninspired and lazy. There's a lot of blame to go around right now, nobody gets a pass in my book.

Ok that is fair. So let's start with the top. Send a message and fire the head coach. He is incompetent and when you want to change a culture, you get rid of the leader. Blache can go to, I really don't care, but at least he has proven over several years that he can effectively lead a defensive group.

Zorn, had never led jacksh-- before he was handed the job last year and we are paying for it every week. Once the league got some tape on him and figured out his tendencies, his offense has been castrated by good and bad teams.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Ok that is fair. So let's start with the top. Send a message and fire the head coach. He is incompetent and when you want to change a culture, you get rid of the leader. Blache can go to, I really don't care, but at least he has proven over several years that he can effectively lead a defensive group.

Zorn, had never led jacksh-- before he was handed the job last year and we are paying for it every week. Once the league got some tape on him and figured out his tendencies, his offense has been castrated by good and bad teams.

Send a message and start at the real top. Fire Vonny Cerrato for putting this team together. I vaguely remember him saying two years ago that he was accountable. Pay back is a bitch.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Send a message and start at the real top. Fire Vonny Cerrato for putting this team together. I vaguely remember him saying two years ago that he was accountable. Pay back is a bitch.

I may be in the minority but I am not that unhappy with Vinny's moves since Gibbs left.

I think he has assembled a lot of talented players and the coaches are not effectively using them.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Send a message and start at the real top. Fire Vonny Cerrato for putting this team together. I vaguely remember him saying two years ago that he was accountable. Pay back is a bitch.

Not to mention that, by all accounts, Zorn was a Vinny hire. He made a strong push for the guy. Failure by Zorn is failure by Vinny, even apart from his personnel decisions.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Ok that is fair. So let's start with the top. Send a message and fire the head coach. He is incompetent and when you want to change a culture, you get rid of the leader. Blache can go to, I really don't care, but at least he has proven over several years that he can effectively lead a defensive group.

Zorn, had never led jacksh-- before he was handed the job last year and we are paying for it every week. Once the league got some tape on him and figured out his tendencies, his offense has been castrated by good and bad teams.

Firing anyone right now is a little too reactionary and knee-jerk for my taste.

If we're sitting at 1-6 at the bye, ok, I might understand firing someone. But even then, it's not going to help us this year.

The best thing we can hope for is Zorn gets this ship righted, somehow. If not you clean house the day after the season ends and go from there.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Firing anyone right now is a little too reactionary and knee-jerk for my taste.

If we're sitting at 1-6 at the bye, ok, I might understand firing someone. But even then, it's not going to help us this year.

The best thing we can hope for is Zorn gets this ship righted, somehow. If not you clean house the day after the season ends and go from there.

I just don't see it happening. Zorn is getting worse at game management. He makes Jerry Glanville look like Joe Gibbs version 2.

He isn't coaching the games like they are his last, he is coaching every play like it is his last.

He is crumbling under the pressure right before our eyes and I do not believe in just throwing away a season, not when it could be saved.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's time to forget about what the defense has done in the past and focus on what they're doing now, and that's not much.

They can't get off the field right now on 3rd downs, they've given up 100 yard rushers in back to back weeks, and the overall effort seems uninspired and lazy. There's a lot of blame to go around right now, nobody gets a pass in my book.

Exactly. I think the "D" gets a pass from some people because

#1 They've been good in the past
#2 The offense is having trouble scoring

Neither one is an excuse for giving up so many first downs and not being able to get off the field. Our defense doesn't worry anyone. Not even the Lions. They had scoring drives of 99-74-86, and 85 yards. That is pathetic.

[hail_2_da_skins]

Blanche is definitely partially to blame for this unacceptable loss to the Lions. A so-called top defense does not allow the hapless Lions these types of long scoring drives. There is no excuse for not being able to get off the field when necessary. The Lions had long sustained drives and that cannot be explained. If you can't get off the field against the Lions, what about the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants...

1st QTR
99 yards, 12 plays, possession 5:50, 21 yd touchdown pass

2nd QTR
74 yards, 11 plays, possession 5:26, 39 yd field goal
86 yards, 18 plays, possession 6:53, 26 yd field goal

4th QTR
85 yards, 8 plays, possession 3:44, 2 yd touchdown run

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Blanche is definitely partially to blame for this unacceptable loss to the Lions. A so-called top defense does not allow the hapless Lions these types of long scoring drives. There is no excuse for not being able to get off the field when necessary. The Lions had long sustained drives and that cannot be explained. If you can't get off the field against the Lions, what about the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants...

1st QTR
99 yards, 12 plays, possession 5:50, 21 yd touchdown pass

2nd QTR
74 yards, 11 plays, possession 5:26, 39 yd field goal
86 yards, 18 plays, possession 6:53, 26 yd field goal

4th QTR
85 yards, 8 plays, possession 3:44, 2 yd touchdown run

I think the first drive ending in a touchdown needs an asterisk because the defense had stopped them.