Campbell's numbers dont lie

[dgack]

I laugh at the people saying the stats lie because he doesn't have enough TD's and his attempts are high. Clearly you all aren't cognizant of the fact that the passer rating actually takes all those things into account, which is why it's used as a metric to compare QB's in the first place.

:P

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Green1

Every thread someone is calling for campbell to be benched but his numbers are great.
1. Rating: 92.5 Higher than Brady, Big Ben, C. Palmer, Cutler, and Rivers
2. 9th in passing yards: More that Rodgers, Ryan, Palmer, E. Manning, & Cutler
3. 5th in the Comp. Percent. 67.6%: Higher than everyone in the league except P. Manning, Brees, Big Ben, and Chad Penn.

So what else does he have to do to be considered a good QB. The Skins have a good QB, just bad playcalling, no running game, and no O-line. Get off campbell's back. He is doing more with less better than anyone in the NFL. Check the stats the STATS don't lie!

No, numbers don't lie, but in this case, they are amazingly misleading. He has a total of 3 tds in 3 games (playing a couple of the worst teams in the NFL) and has 2 ints coupled with a league leading 5 fumbles. He should have done A LOT BETTER. He still is not throwing the ball well deep, and he for some reason leaves the building with his tail between his legs when the Skins make it to the redzone.
If you think his numbers don't lie, then I can certainly sell you on bringing Brunell back, cause supposedly, his numbers didn't lie either.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by jsarno

If you think his numbers don't lie, then I can certainly sell you on bringing Brunell back, cause supposedly, his numbers didn't lie either.

Well, that's correct, but we don't need another rhetorical argument. That's not contributing to the discussion.

[Hog1]

Gibbs made a legend winning SB's without superstar QB power. We can as well but the coaching staff will have to learn what he did. Improvise, and adapt the scheme and attack to "who" you have. We need O-line and running game.... Oh yah, and someone who can get open
We will have to beef up JC supporting cast and he will become a solid, productive QB. He may never be a.........Montana?
Mark Rypien was F...n AMAZING when he got sacked like 7 times in 91'. Things changed....rapidly as "that number" changed post Gibbs.

[Hog1]

FIRST, we need to play the young guys and SEE what we have?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Hog1

FIRST, we need to play the young guys and SEE what we have?

Yeah I'm kind of wondering why Mitchell hasn't seen the field yet.

[GTripp0012]

Rebuilding would have been a much more sensible option if we hadn't thrown a few billion dollars at Hall and Haynesworth. Now, since you are paying that money no matter what, I don't know how you rebuild at the same time.

If there's one thing that has frustrated me about the last five years of the Redskins, it's the complete dismissal of needing a 'Plan B' because of the undying confidence that 'Plan A' will work.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Rebuilding would have been a much more sensible option if we hadn't thrown a few billion dollars at Hall and Haynesworth. Now, since you are paying that money no matter what, I don't know how you rebuild at the same time.

If there's one thing that has frustrated me about the last five years of the Redskins, it's the complete dismissal of needing a 'Plan B' because of the undying confidence that 'Plan A' will work.

You are definitely right about that.

[GTripp0012]

When I was looking up Campbell's fourth quarter splits for research prompted by my comments earlier of this thread, I found out something interesting:

According to NFL.com, Jason Campbell did not make a single pass in the fourth quarter with the score anything greater than a 7 point game.

Of course, I don't know how NFL.com was counting the Giants, Ravens, and Steelers games, when that was actually the case, but it's been a little bit different for the Redskins to get down by more than 7 points twice in the first three weeks.

[GTripp0012]

Collins would get the ball out quickly, but those 8-10 yard passes to Cooley that are a staple of our offense become 4-5 yard passes. And then we'd just be a top to bottom bad team.

[hooskins]

Blaming Campbell is such an easy cop out. The problem is much more complex. Campbell does well, but man our receivers and Zorn arent really helping him IMO.

Also we have said it quite a bit, but it starts top-down. We all knew the O was gonna be interesting this year based on our draft and pro-scouts.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Blaming Campbell is such an easy cop out. The problem is much more complex. Campbell does well, but man our receivers and Zorn arent really helping him IMO.

Also we have said it quite a bit, but it starts top-down. We all knew the O was gonna be interesting this year based on our draft and pro-scouts.

No doubt. It's a narrow minded view, but you can't expect everyone to get it I guess. The easy thing to do is just blame the QB. It's something Redskins fans are pretty good at.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The easy thing to do is just blame the QB. It's something Redskins fans are pretty good at.

I dont think its just Redskins fans, its football fans in general. The QB position is the most critical position on the field, and those that play it MUST have thick skin. First one to blame for a loss, first one to praise for a win, it just comes along with the job.

[Lady Brave]

I truly applaud people who still manage to defend Campbell. I lost faith after last season and most likely won't regain it until he can maintain some consistency. People can argue all day long that Campbell is a good QB, but at the end of the day, he hasn't been good enough.

[hooskins]

Here is another thing, Zorn really got away from the run early in the game. That shows lack of discipline, along with going for it on 4th and goal(which I feel was purely because of the media/fan pressure to get a TD).