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Old 02-19-2010, 09:38 AM   #1
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Well if we can't get Kuper than lets get Chester Pitts from Houston, he's 31 and knows Shannys offense (Kyles) as well as Kubiaks which is pretty much shanny's offense.
Ok, then, what do you do at LT and RT? Someone capable is going to need to protect your boy Bradford's blindside, otherwise he'll be seeing Dr. Andrews again.

I must say, I like Pitts. Haven't heard anything about the Texans trying to keep him.
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Old 02-19-2010, 10:10 AM   #2
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Ok, then, what do you do at LT and RT? Someone capable is going to need to protect your boy Bradford's blindside, otherwise he'll be seeing Dr. Andrews again.

I must say, I like Pitts. Haven't heard anything about the Texans trying to keep him.
It's possible that the Texans will franchise him.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:19 PM   #3
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Given Shanny's past, maybe we'll trade for Cleveland's entire OL. Problem solved.
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:20 PM   #4
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I think the very best lineman who will be available to sign in free agency will be Ben Hamilton, and while he will probably end up here in some capacity, he's a below average player, not dissimilar from Dockery.

Really the two best players on our OL are STILL Samuels and Thomas. That's the part I think we have to change this offseason. Thomas, I think, will be the RG next year, but I don't think we can count on him to not get hurt, and I think Samuels will ultimately decide to retire.
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Old 02-19-2010, 06:09 PM   #5
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Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line

The Skins WILL draft a LT with thier first pick, for the simple reason that they have to.
Yes, have to.
They NEED an all-pro caliber LT to be successful,
they don't have one,
and there are no realistic FA's who fit that definition.
No other options.
It sucks to spend a #4 overall pick on a lineman, but you just have to bite the bullet, and you'll be glad you did, every sunday for 10 years.

Best LT with 1st pick, and either Pouncey or Iupati in the 2nd.

Next year, take QB (Locker/Mallett)in the 1st, OL in the 2nd.

Just get young tough athletic lineman and let them gel over time.

BTW, next season is gonna be a mess, we'll be drafting top 5 again.
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Old 02-19-2010, 07:31 PM   #6
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Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line

2nd Round-Charles Brown-USC-OT
3rd Round-Jared Velheer-Hillsdale-OT/OG(Trade to get a pick)
4th Round-Matt Tennant-BC-C/OG

Resign Levi Jones

Our 2010 offensive line
LT Charles Brown/Jared Velheer
LG Dockery
C Tennant
RG Rinehart/Montgomery
RT Velheer/Levi Jones
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Old 02-20-2010, 12:31 AM   #7
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2nd Round-Charles Brown-USC-OT
3rd Round-Jared Velheer-Hillsdale-OT/OG(Trade to get a pick)
4th Round-Matt Tennant-BC-C/OG

Resign Levi Jones

Our 2010 offensive line
LT Charles Brown/Jared Velheer
LG Dockery
C Tennant
RG Rinehart/Montgomery
RT Velheer/Levi Jones
you and I pretty much have the same idea for OL and the draft, except I have another rookie starting at RG instead of Rinehart.
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Old 02-20-2010, 01:12 AM   #8
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you and I pretty much have the same idea for OL and the draft, except I have another rookie starting at RG instead of Rinehart.
I also have that guy from the broncos that we signed in the mix but i was too lazy to look up his name.
Kory Lightstringer??
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Old 02-20-2010, 01:35 AM   #9
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I also have that guy from the broncos that we signed in the mix but i was too lazy to look up his name.
Kory Lightstringer??
Just call him Kory L. Though for the record his name is Kory Lichtensteiger.
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I have a Velheer analysis that I am going to be putting together when I can rent game tape of both Grand Valley-Hillsdale games from this year for "coursework", but I'll just say that I'm not all that impressed with watching him live. He's a dominant lineman in division 2, but he looked very slow against some of the better D-II pass rushers (GVSU's line).

Considering that the best pass rushers at this level make up the bottom of the barrel at the professional level, I think his best chance to make it might be on the inside. Not all that dissimilar from Chad Rinehart. I don't really have a good concept of his build or projection as an interior lineman though. So maybe that's not realistic.
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I have a Velheer analysis that I am going to be putting together when I can rent game tape of both Grand Valley-Hillsdale games from this year for "coursework", but I'll just say that I'm not all that impressed with watching him live. He's a dominant lineman in division 2, but he looked very slow against some of the better D-II pass rushers (GVSU's line).

Considering that the best pass rushers at this level make up the bottom of the barrel at the professional level, I think his best chance to make it might be on the inside. Not all that dissimilar from Chad Rinehart. I don't really have a good concept of his build or projection as an interior lineman though. So maybe that's not realistic.
I read that he is working his way up draft boards with his athleticism and he should rise even higher after a strong combine.
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I read that he is working his way up draft boards with his athleticism and he should rise even higher after a strong combine.
Without the benefit of replay, I'd say you should take the word of the scouting report off of film over whatever I saw, in general. He was one of 11 guys, the only one I cared to scout for sure, but I was still watching a game with a rooting interest. But looking slow (unquantifiable) is probably a lot different than being athletic (quantifiable).

Don't know how they are projecting players to have a strong combine at this point. Seems to defeat the purpose of a combine.

I was only at one of the two match-ups between the schools. The other was a GVSU road game (and first regular season loss in five years). The game I was at wasn't really close, so perhaps I caught Velheer (and the rest of his team) on a bad day.
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Old 02-23-2010, 01:28 PM   #13
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Love Best.. wouldn't mind trying Coker or Blount depending what we're aiming for in that dept

I'd also venture to say that Rine and crew didn't necessarily perform poorly, but there seemed to be gross mismanagement making decisions on things.
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Why use a 2nd round pick on Jahvid Best? We already have a player with his skill set in Anthony Aldridge. RB coach just needs to coach him up more in holding the ball higher and tighter which i know he can do. Shanahan loves pounding the rock as much as he can but Best isnt an every down back. Why waste a pick as high as 2nd on a committee runner? No Thanx, grab more Olineman help Brown, Ducassee, Campbell, etc
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Why use a 2nd round pick on Jahvid Best? We already have a player with his skill set in Anthony Aldridge. RB coach just needs to coach him up more in holding the ball higher and tighter which i know he can do. Shanahan loves pounding the rock as much as he can but Best isnt an every down back. Why waste a pick as high as 2nd on a committee runner? No Thanx, grab more Olineman help Brown, Ducassee, Campbell, etc


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