On the radar: Skins WR's

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yes McNabb is 33, but he's still one of the best in the business, and despite your injury comment, he's started 44 of the last 48 regular season games. Pretty solid.

I'm probably nitpicking GMScud today, especially since I'm largely in agreement with (t)his post, but when you have to frame McNabb's durability in the concept of the last three years, because he comes out in the bottom third of quarterbacks in durability when you talk about last year, or the last four years, or the last five years, seems like selective sampling.

The whole picture is this (I'm not going back past 2004, but you absolutely could without changing the results):

McNabb started the following % of his teams games:

2009: 88%
2008-09: 94%
2007-09: 92%
2006-09: 88%
2005-09: 81%
2004*-09: 84%

*I did not penalize McNabb for sitting the final game in 2004 on Coach's Decision. I just didn't count that one in games played.

McNabb misses almost two games a season -- for his career -- with injures. No matter how that's trended over the last three years, he's not going to get less injured as he gets older. He might play through more injuries...but I'd rather he not if it's going to hamper his effectiveness.

[GTripp0012]

McNabb's been less durable since turning 29 than over his career as a whole which makes sense. He'll probably be less durable over the final 4-5 years of his career than over the last 5. That's just common sense telling me that, not a soothsayer.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm probably nitpicking GMScud today, especially since I'm largely in agreement with (t)his post, but when you have to frame McNabb's durability in the concept of the last three years, because he comes out in the bottom third of quarterbacks in durability when you talk about last year, or the last four years, or the last five years, seems like selective sampling.

The whole picture is this (I'm not going back past 2004, but you absolutely could without changing the results):

McNabb started the following % of his teams games:

2009: 88%
2008-09: 94%
2007-09: 92%
2006-09: 88%
2005-09: 81%
2004*-09: 84%

*I did not penalize McNabb for sitting the final game in 2004 on Coach's Decision. I just didn't count that one in games played.

McNabb misses almost two games a season -- for his career -- with injures. No matter how that's trended over the last three years, he's not going to get less injured as he gets older. He might play through more injuries...but I'd rather he not if it's going to hamper his effectiveness.

The reason I used the past three season is simply because he started 14, 16, and 14 games during that span. Sure it's selective and helps my argument (why wouldn't I spin it in my favor ). But I would say those past few seasons are more of an indication of where his body is at right now than when he was dealing with broken ankles, ACL's, and hernias 4-7 years ago. Also, if I'm not mistaken, those three major injuries I just mentioned were all the result of McNabb scrambling, which he doesn't do nearly as much anymore.

[Bigreds77]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Emmitt? Is that you?

No just a guy that thinks the NFL can make it without thugs & I root for all the good people especially when they come from my hometown.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Don't laugh but on NFL radio the other day they were talking about the possiblity that the Skins could have the best OL in the division this year. I don't think that's a crazy discussion either.

Well, we've certainly invested more in our line this year than any other team in the division, and it's not all that close.

Does that mean we'll get better results than teams who invested less in their lines this year? Actually...maybe.

(This is from August 2009)

(T)he trends that we identify in the book are still there. The strongest trend in identifying "surprise" teams is still drafting an offensive lineman in the first dozen picks, like last year's Dolphins and the 2007 Browns. This is still a team that is likely to be much healthier and nowhere near as bad in the red zone [as last year].

...

We know that every year some team that has been losing for a couple seasons will come out of nowhere to have a winning season. Everyone wants to figure out how to predict that team, and we're no different. We looked closely to try to figure out what trends pointed to a team about to break out.

That quote was not written about the 2010 Redskins, however, I didn't have to add any words to make it sound like it was. Only had to pull out team- and division-specific references.

[SmootSmack]

Devin Thomas is working out with OchoCinco...which obviously means we'll be making a trade for Ocho soon...

YouTube - RockSoftwareTV's Channel

Video of his workout with DT has not been posted yet I don't believe

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Devin Thomas is working out with OchoCinco...which obviously means we'll be making a trade for Ocho soon...

YouTube - RockSoftwareTV's Channel

Video of his workout with DT has not been posted yet I don't believe

I think it can only make DT better 3rd yr I'm expecting BIG things this year. Hopefully next year he will try Jerry Rice's camp.

HTTR.

[NYCskinfan82]

Fred Davis And Malcolm Kelly Are Ready To Be Veterans.

13 days till Training Camp opens.

HTTR.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Fred Davis And Malcolm Kelly Are Ready To Be Veterans.

13 days till Training Camp opens.

HTTR.

3rd year, now is their time.

I was encouraged a bit by hearing Aaron Rodgers on NFL radio the other day saying it wasn't until his third year in the league that he started feeling comfortable and the game finally started slowing down for him.

[CRedskinsRule]

Twitter reports are saying that MK hurt his hamstring while practicing with McNabb and will not practice tomorrow...

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

A tweak? Or is it more serious? Antone have any info on the injury?

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Twitter reports are saying that MK hurt his hamstring while practicing with McNabb and will not practice tomorrow...

At least it's not his freakin knee.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Twitter reports are saying that MK hurt his hamstring while practicing with McNabb and will not practice tomorrow...

Kelly can least afford any setbacks of any kind anymore. He and Thomas both must demonstrate they can/will be available for an entire season. I know it's early yet, but injuries seem to follow them both.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Redskins Insider - Malcolm Kelly injures hamstring at Donovan McNabb's 'Hell Week'

The answer to my own question....

[SmootSmack]

MK has no room for error quite honestly.