Haynesworth fails conditioning test

[murphy196]

Originally Posted by ghettodogallstars

coaches should set their players up for failure more often. When i played football there was nothing nice about it. We ran drills till we puked, and we did it for free.

exactly!!!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Coaches should set their players up for failure more often. When I played football there was nothing nice about it. We ran drills till we puked, and we did it for free.

Really, it's a person by person case. Some are motivated by failure, others are motivated by rewards or successes.

No one, however, is motivated by stubborn ego-flexing, which is why it's hard for me to view this ordeal as a motivation concept.

I think Albert Haynesworth is motivated by fear of failure. He does not want to be known as the $100 million bust. And if his two choices are to be known as a bust, or a malcontent asshole who doesn't listen to outside opinions if it doesn't help him reach his goal of personal greatness -- I think it's obvious that Albert is less about the team than himself.

Naturally, you could see why Vinny loved this guy.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Really, it's a person by person case. Some are motivated by failure, others are motivated by rewards or successes.

No one, however, is motivated by stubborn ego-flexing, which is why it's hard for me to view this ordeal as a motivation concept.

I think Albert Haynesworth is motivated by fear of failure. He does not want to be known as the $100 million bust. And if his two choices are to be known as a bust, or a malcontent asshole who doesn't listen to outside opinions if it doesn't help him reach his goal of personal greatness -- I think it's obvious that Albert is less about the team than himself.

Naturally, you could see why Vinny loved this guy.

I don't necessarily think it is a preconceived motivational strategy, it's just the coach being a prick. All my football coaches were pricks too, and as players we just had to submit. To me that's all this is: a dominance game. The coach is the dominatrix and the players are the subordinates. You are right though, some people respond better to it than others.

Not all coaches are pricks -- each one has a different style. But, the prick approach is a valid one IMO.

[murphy196]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I don't necessarily think it is a preconceived motivational strategy, it's just the coach being a prick. All my football coaches were pricks too, and as players we just had to submit. To me that's all this is: a dominance game. The coach is the dominatrix and the players are the subordinates. You are right though, some people respond better to it than others.

Not all coaches are pricks -- each one has a different style. But, the prick approach is a valid one IMO.

Well, most of the time the pricks are the most successful.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

So I read this and started thinking....

Haynesworth, Shanahan exchange words after failed conditioning test | ProFootballTalk.com

All his actions are doing is building sympathy for Haynesworth, which makes Shanahan either a vindictive jerk... or an absolute genius. If Shanahan sensed that the locker room, following Fletchers lead, was turned against Haynesworth, what better way to get the teammates to embrace him than by asking him to do 10 times more than the rest of them, having him do it, and then failing him anyways? Strategery.

[skinsfan_nn]

Gotta love it. Fat Al your gonna be in shape one way or the other. There is a new SHERIFF in town and this real SHERIFF is in full control!

Where's that boy wonder trainer at now Fat Al..? Just when you need him to push you off the shitter and run a FEW more sprints?



Albert Haynesworth's inability to run a third 300-yard sprint in a satisfactory time in the eyes of coach Mike Shanahan prevented him from practicing with the Redskins Thursday.

Haynesworth had to pass a conditioning test Thursday and he entered the day planning to do two sprints. According to a source, Shanahan believed Haynesworth had too much rest time between his runs and asked for a third.


Haynesworth failed the third sprint. A source said Haynesworth told Shanahan he never ran three such sprints during his best Pro Bowl seasons. Shanahan then told Haynesworth that he must not have ever been in shape, according to the source.

Shanahan and Haynesworth have been feuding since Shanahan became coach of the Redskins in early January. Haynesworth skipped all offseason work with the team because he didn't want to be in the team's new 3-4 defensive scheme.

Haynesworth reported to the team Wednesday 30 to 40 pounds lighter but was told he would work with the backups when he returned to the field.

It is not known when Haynesworth will have his next test.

FoxSports.com first reported that Haynesworth had failed his conditioning test.

[Daseal]

I lost some respect for Shanahan today. Haynesworth came into camp and passed the two sprints. Because of that, Shanny made him run a 3rd. Had he passed that, he would have made him run a 4th. If you feel he's taking too much time say "Run it now" and he better -- but this was just an ego trip. Albert Haynesworth had no chance to pass this conditioning test regardless of what kind of condition he's in -- bush league move.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I lost some respect for Shanahan today. Haynesworth came into camp and passed the two sprints. Because of that, Shanny made him run a 3rd. Had he passed that, he would have made him run a 4th. If you feel he's taking too much time say "Run it now" and he better -- but this was just an ego trip. Albert Haynesworth had no chance to pass this conditioning test regardless of what kind of condition he's in -- bush league move.

I have to think what Haynesworth has done this entire offseason if more of a bush league move...

Maybe Haynesworth will come out more determined and focused tomorrow and actually shit his pants. This will probably be the first time shitting of the pants is equated to a good thing.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I have to think what Haynesworth has done this entire offseason if more of a bush league move...

Maybe Haynesworth will come out more determined and focused tomorrow and actually shit his pants. This will probably be the first time shitting of the pants is equated to a good thing.

Haynesworth did not act admirably during the offseason. At first, I was on his side. The trainers at Redskins park last year were terrible. I understand wanting to do your own thing to get into shape. Asking for the trade after a 21M pay day is ridiculous.

People are acting like a DT should have to run 3 300yard sprints. That's 9 football fields. Shanny said two because he didnt think Albert would ever finish them. When he did he found an excuse to fail him. Be the bigger man, bury the hatchet, and help a stud player assimilate into the team. Making him start with the 2nd string is enough -- he's obviously in shape -- start building a team instead of tearing one apart.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Haynesworth did not act admirably during the offseason. At first, I was on his side. The trainers at Redskins park last year were terrible. I understand wanting to do your own thing to get into shape. Asking for the trade after a 21M pay day is ridiculous.

People are acting like a DT should have to run 3 300yard sprints. That's 9 football fields. Shanny said two because he didnt think Albert would ever finish them. When he did he found an excuse to fail him. Be the bigger man, bury the hatchet, and help a stud player assimilate into the team. Making him start with the 2nd string is enough -- he's obviously in shape -- start building a team instead of tearing one apart.

These are exactly my thoughts.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I lost some respect for Shanahan today. Haynesworth came into camp and passed the two sprints. Because of that, Shanny made him run a 3rd. Had he passed that, he would have made him run a 4th. If you feel he's taking too much time say "Run it now" and he better -- but this was just an ego trip. Albert Haynesworth had no chance to pass this conditioning test regardless of what kind of condition he's in -- bush league move.

The practice of most NFL coaches to air the teams laundry and try to embarrass players in the press has to stop. Keep personnel issues in house.
It is funny how players get fined or suspended or called malcontents if the roles were reversed. Shanahan pulled a bush league move today. Head coach is an authority and should not sink down to level of morons.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Shanahan the Coaching mastermind.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Shanahan the Coaching mastermind.

Not really. He just gave the media a huge misinformation nugget about Albert. Who is really going to pay attention to the fact that "several players said Haynesworth clearly is in much better shape than he was at this time last season"(RI)?

[Hog1]

As far as I know MS has 90 or so guys towing the line drinking the Kool aid and deamin' the dream.....AND we have one unhappy Big Al....bucking the system?
Team sports should not cater to the individual but rather reward the...team.
MS is sending a message. Hopefully Big can be intelligent enough to hear that there is no....I in team? Man up, Take your lumps, move on......HTTR

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Hog1

As far as I know MS has 90 or so guys towing the line drinking the Kool aid and deamin' the dream.....AND we have one unhappy Big Al....bucking the system?
Team sports should not cater to the individual but rather reward the...team.
MS is sending a message. Hopefully Big can be intelligent enough to hear that there is no....I in team? Man up, Take your lumps, move on......HTTR

Exactly,what type of leader would MS be if he didn't do something,what would that say to the guys that have done all that is asked of them......for alot less money.