Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks

celts32 · 03-28-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not as much interest in Leinart anymore. Feeling is he's probably not going to be more than what they believe they think they can get out of Beck anyway. Vince Young, on the other hand...

Just heard from someone else about the Redskins' interest in VY. Still have no idea how they would plan on doing that.

This time of year kind of sucks for me, too much information. It's as much work filtering through the crap as anything else. That said, this sounds like it could be fairly legit. Not like last year's Peppers rumors, which I could instantly tell was bogus

Do you think it sounds like VY would replace Grossman/Mcnabb as the place holder or would it end the possibility of using a 1st or 2nd round pick on a QB? I am okay with them signing him instead of Grossman but putting my eggs in his basket as the long term answer I am not okay with at all.

SmootSmack · 03-28-2011, 04:59 PM

That's a good question. Maybe they have Young battle it out with Grossman with Beck as the #3. Or they let both Grossman and McNabb walk and take a QB in the later rounds, someone like Taylor or McElroy maybe? But then you're talking about Beck as your #2! Not sure I want that.

If they got Young, would they also take a QB in the 2nd round (they won't in the first, not at #10)? I suppose, but my gut is getting Young would mean they don't want to, or can't, invest in a QB in the first couple of rounds.

It's just a shame we have to do this all over again this year. If it's Young, or Locker, or whoever, I'd just like to get a QB here that will be here under center for at least the next 5 years. 5 years, that's all I ask

celts32 · 03-28-2011, 05:04 PM

Young & Locker I could get behind...but Young & grossman scares the hell out of me!

SmootSmack · 03-28-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

Young & Locker I could get behind...but Young & grossman scares the hell out of me!

Agreed. I don't see the upside of Young and Grossman

skinsfaninok · 03-28-2011, 05:19 PM

Young is a scary situation for us honestly but for some reason I always thought the redskins would make a serious play for him. I think the guy has rare talents but can he get over his mental shit? That's a big question mark

BuckSkin · 03-28-2011, 05:23 PM

The irony of this VY conversation is the Titans loss to the Redskins was the catalyst that put this potential release/ trade into motion.

skinsfaninok · 03-28-2011, 05:51 PM

Young had a solid year last season, 98.4 qb rating.. He will never be a pure passer nor will he ever be a TOP 5 QB but he's a winner and that's something the Redskins havn't done in a while.

SkinzWin · 03-28-2011, 07:44 PM

I would take VY over Smith any day. Smith just doesn't have IT. VY has a lot of upside and intangibles, but has battled his personality and emotional issues. I say give him an incentive laden contract and write him a VERY large prescription for PAXIL and WAMMO.....

Dirtbag59 · 03-28-2011, 08:07 PM

Hey guys, original question, who would you rather have Vince Young or Jason Campbell?

Ruhskins · 03-28-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Hey guys, original question, who would you rather have Vince Young or Jason Campbell?

If you are asking which one as the "bridge QB until we get a young QB up to speed" then Campbell (or just freaking Grossman), b/c that would have meant not wasting draft picks on McNabb.

SkinzWin · 03-28-2011, 08:17 PM

Campbell. Oh wait, I want a team to be able to do better than 8-8. If VY can get his head straight in a new venue, definitely him. I've been paralleling Alex Smith and Jason Campbell recently. I don't think Campbell has the IT to take a team all the way.

skinsfaninok · 03-28-2011, 09:26 PM

Young over JC but not that much

BuckSkin · 03-28-2011, 09:32 PM

That's like picking spinach over brussel sprouts!

SmootSmack · 03-28-2011, 10:00 PM

I love spinach!

Someone asked me if I were a betting man, would I say VY will be the Redskins starter on opening day. Um...my guess is no. Nor will it be Palmer, or Hasselbeck, or Smith, or any other non-Redskin NFL QB rumored or not rumored. I think Grossman will be the opening day starter and a month into the season (give or take a week) the QB I expect us to take in the mid 1st to mid 2nd (probably Dalton, Locker, or Ponder) will be starting.

Then again, around this time last year I bet that we'd sign Grossman but that he'd be cut by the end of preseason, so....shows what I know

GusFrerotte · 03-28-2011, 10:19 PM

Young would be a waste of a pickup. I still say draft a QB this season and next or just draft one and get a young FA this year. No more perennial backups like Garcia, they just don't win. I rather have a young gun get some teething time in even if he gets a bit roughed up.

03-28-2011, 05:19 PM	#5
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks Young is a scary situation for us honestly but for some reason I always thought the redskins would make a serious play for him. I think the guy has rare talents but can he get over his mental shit? That's a big question mark __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-28-2011, 05:23 PM	#6
BuckSkin Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eastern Ohio Age: 57 Posts: 232	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks The irony of this VY conversation is the Titans loss to the Redskins was the catalyst that put this potential release/ trade into motion. __________________ "Any Nation willing to give up a little freedom, to gain a little security, will deserve neither, and lose both." -Benjamin Franklin

03-28-2011, 05:51 PM	#7
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks Young had a solid year last season, 98.4 qb rating.. He will never be a pure passer nor will he ever be a TOP 5 QB but he's a winner and that's something the Redskins havn't done in a while. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-28-2011, 07:44 PM	#8
SkinzWin Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,543	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks I would take VY over Smith any day. Smith just doesn't have IT. VY has a lot of upside and intangibles, but has battled his personality and emotional issues. I say give him an incentive laden contract and write him a VERY large prescription for PAXIL and WAMMO..... __________________ Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever... Team Heinicke Fan Club punch it in - CEO SkinzWin - President FrenchSkin - VP of Global Operations ODUsmitty - Director of Cheerleader Fulfillment Meks - Director of Marketing

03-28-2011, 08:07 PM	#9
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks Hey guys, original question, who would you rather have Vince Young or Jason Campbell? __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

03-28-2011, 04:59 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks That's a good question. Maybe they have Young battle it out with Grossman with Beck as the #3. Or they let both Grossman and McNabb walk and take a QB in the later rounds, someone like Taylor or McElroy maybe? But then you're talking about Beck as your #2! Not sure I want that. If they got Young, would they also take a QB in the 2nd round (they won't in the first, not at #10)? I suppose, but my gut is getting Young would mean they don't want to, or can't, invest in a QB in the first couple of rounds. It's just a shame we have to do this all over again this year. If it's Young, or Locker, or whoever, I'd just like to get a QB here that will be here under center for at least the next 5 years. 5 years, that's all I ask __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-28-2011, 05:04 PM	#3
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 55 Posts: 2,665	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks Young & Locker I could get behind...but Young & grossman scares the hell out of me! __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

03-28-2011, 08:17 PM	#11
SkinzWin Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,543	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks Campbell. Oh wait, I want a team to be able to do better than 8-8. If VY can get his head straight in a new venue, definitely him. I've been paralleling Alex Smith and Jason Campbell recently. I don't think Campbell has the IT to take a team all the way. __________________ Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever... Team Heinicke Fan Club punch it in - CEO SkinzWin - President FrenchSkin - VP of Global Operations ODUsmitty - Director of Cheerleader Fulfillment Meks - Director of Marketing

03-28-2011, 09:26 PM	#12
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks Young over JC but not that much __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-28-2011, 09:32 PM	#13
BuckSkin Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eastern Ohio Age: 57 Posts: 232	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks That's like picking spinach over brussel sprouts! __________________ "Any Nation willing to give up a little freedom, to gain a little security, will deserve neither, and lose both." -Benjamin Franklin

03-28-2011, 10:00 PM	#14
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks I love spinach! Someone asked me if I were a betting man, would I say VY will be the Redskins starter on opening day. Um...my guess is no. Nor will it be Palmer, or Hasselbeck, or Smith, or any other non-Redskin NFL QB rumored or not rumored. I think Grossman will be the opening day starter and a month into the season (give or take a week) the QB I expect us to take in the mid 1st to mid 2nd (probably Dalton, Locker, or Ponder) will be starting. Then again, around this time last year I bet that we'd sign Grossman but that he'd be cut by the end of preseason, so....shows what I know __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-28-2011, 10:19 PM	#15
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks Young would be a waste of a pickup. I still say draft a QB this season and next or just draft one and get a young FA this year. No more perennial backups like Garcia, they just don't win. I rather have a young gun get some teething time in even if he gets a bit roughed up.

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