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Old 04-29-2011, 06:50 PM   #1
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Re: 2011 Draft Thread Rounds 2-3

Dan Snyder scrambles for his SportIng News draft guide..
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:50 PM   #2
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Jenkins plays the nose right? Sounds like he can play DE too.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:51 PM   #3
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:53 PM   #4
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Thanks for the link, that confirms my overall disappointment
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Whatever. This guy better work out
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:52 PM   #7
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Re: 2011 Draft Thread Rounds 2-3

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3/28/2011 - Best of defensive line prospects: Jarvis Jenkins, Clemson, 6-4, 310, 2-3...Jenkins has been overshadowed by Bowers but that hasn't limited his production. After leading all Clemson defensive linemen with 69 tackles (11 for loss) in 2009, Jenkins backed that up with a first-team All-ACC senior season that included 51 tackles (nine for loss), to go along with 16 quarterback pressures. He also displayed special-teams acumen with a Clemson-record four blocked kicks during his career. Jenkins has excellent size and strength, and will fit in a number of schemes, including outside in a 3-4.
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3/28/2011 - Jenkins has excellent size and strength, and will fit in a number of schemes, including outside in a 3-4.
Yet could only bench press 225 17 times, he looks like the Pillsbury dough boy.
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Jarvis Jenkins | Clemson, DT : 2011 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile
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Well, it's a pick targeting the right spot--middle of the 3-4 front, DE/NT. Now it's just question of scouting. Can he fill it up in the NFL or not? We'll see!
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Shocked. Didn't think he was the best NT availiable. Not strong; Did only 17 Reps at the combine which is pretty bad for a D-lineman.
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Shocked. Didn't think he was the best NT availiable. Not strong; Did only 17 Reps at the combine which is pretty bad for a D-lineman.
The bench isn't a great indicator of overall strength
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The bench isn't a great indicator of overall strength
Don't know about that, but we can agree he needs to get stronger.
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Production 2 2007: Played sparingly as a reserve NT. 2008: (13/12) 36 tackles, 10 TFL, 2 sacks. 2009: (14/14) 69 tackles, 11 TFL, 1 sack, 1 FR. 2010: (12/12) 53 tackles, 9 TFL, 1 sack.

Height-Weight-Speed - 3 - Slightly taller, heavier and faster than the three-year combine average at the DT position. But he's a bit top-heavy, and his hands (9 1/4 inches) and arms (33 inches) are slightly smaller than average.

Durability - 2 - Has played in 39 of 40 games during his final three seasons, including 38 starts. Only game missed was Presbyterian in 2010, when he was resting a strained MCL injury.

Intangibles - 2 - Team captain. No off-field issues or academic problems to our knowledge. Improving as a leader and is learning to trust his coaching more as he matures.
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
DEFENSIVE TACKLE SPECIFIC TRAITS
Versus the Run - 2 - At his best versus the run. Quick first step and generally gets some penetration or at least good initial positioning. Does a solid job with his hand placement when taking on blocks in the run game. Flashes some power in short punch but needs to improve upper body strength. Tied for fewest reps (17) on bench press of all the defensive linemen at 2011 NFL combine. Is disciplined with his assignments but he's also inconsistent when it comes to finding the ball and disengaging in time. Flashes disruptive qualities and makes a lot of plays in the backfield. But there are too many occasions when OL quickly lock on and neutralize him through the whistle. Can be a powerful hitter and will make some tackles from behind but is not an effective open-field tackler.

Pass Rush Skills - 4 - Shows good awareness as a pass rusher. Diagnoses plays quickly which helps him on play-action passes. Does a very nice job of sniffing out screens. Moves well for his size and shows some initial power as a bull rusher but lacks elite lower-body strength to consistently drive OL back and collapse the pocket. Vanilla as a pass rusher and struggles to counter when reached. Uses spin move too much and rarely is effective. Sack production was underwhelming at collegiate level.

Quickness (hands/feet)- 2 - Good first step quickness and overall mobility for size. Not an elite athlete for the position but moves well and can get down the line. Adequate hand quickness but is not violent with hands. More effective with his hands in run game than as a pass rusher. Needs to learn more effective rip, swim and club techniques.

Toughness/Motor - 2 - Adequate-to-good overall toughness and motor for a 310-pound DT/NT. Plays hard when he's on the field. Will pursue hard from the backside and works through the whistle. But stamina is a bit of a question mark. He is not on the field for many obvious passing downs and he was well-rested in a deeper DL rotation than most schools. Has some special teams value (four blocked kicks during career).
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
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Production 2 2007: Played sparingly as a reserve NT. 2008: (13/12) 36 tackles, 10 TFL, 2 sacks. 2009: (14/14) 69 tackles, 11 TFL, 1 sack, 1 FR. 2010: (12/12) 53 tackles, 9 TFL, 1 sack.

Height-Weight-Speed - 3 - Slightly taller, heavier and faster than the three-year combine average at the DT position. But he's a bit top-heavy, and his hands (9 1/4 inches) and arms (33 inches) are slightly smaller than average.

Durability - 2 - Has played in 39 of 40 games during his final three seasons, including 38 starts. Only game missed was Presbyterian in 2010, when he was resting a strained MCL injury.

Intangibles - 2 - Team captain. No off-field issues or academic problems to our knowledge. Improving as a leader and is learning to trust his coaching more as he matures.
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
DEFENSIVE TACKLE SPECIFIC TRAITS
Versus the Run - 2 - At his best versus the run. Quick first step and generally gets some penetration or at least good initial positioning. Does a solid job with his hand placement when taking on blocks in the run game. Flashes some power in short punch but needs to improve upper body strength. Tied for fewest reps (17) on bench press of all the defensive linemen at 2011 NFL combine. Is disciplined with his assignments but he's also inconsistent when it comes to finding the ball and disengaging in time. Flashes disruptive qualities and makes a lot of plays in the backfield. But there are too many occasions when OL quickly lock on and neutralize him through the whistle. Can be a powerful hitter and will make some tackles from behind but is not an effective open-field tackler.

Pass Rush Skills - 4 - Shows good awareness as a pass rusher. Diagnoses plays quickly which helps him on play-action passes. Does a very nice job of sniffing out screens. Moves well for his size and shows some initial power as a bull rusher but lacks elite lower-body strength to consistently drive OL back and collapse the pocket. Vanilla as a pass rusher and struggles to counter when reached. Uses spin move too much and rarely is effective. Sack production was underwhelming at collegiate level.

Quickness (hands/feet)- 2 - Good first step quickness and overall mobility for size. Not an elite athlete for the position but moves well and can get down the line. Adequate hand quickness but is not violent with hands. More effective with his hands in run game than as a pass rusher. Needs to learn more effective rip, swim and club techniques.

Toughness/Motor - 2 - Adequate-to-good overall toughness and motor for a 310-pound DT/NT. Plays hard when he's on the field. Will pursue hard from the backside and works through the whistle. But stamina is a bit of a question mark. He is not on the field for many obvious passing downs and he was well-rested in a deeper DL rotation than most schools. Has some special teams value (four blocked kicks during career).
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
that is one backwards rating system...
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