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Old 10-31-2011, 07:26 PM   #1
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Re: Positions Which Need to Be Addressed

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Old 10-31-2011, 11:54 PM   #2
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Regardless of how we do it (free agency or draft) the roster is weak and needs to be revamped before next year. What are the positions the Skins need to address during the offseason? (I hate talking next season so early, but I think it is a better way to analyze the situation instead of calling for blood). These are my positions of focus, in order of importance:

  1. QB
  2. OL (I guess G and RT first)
  3. CB
  4. ILB
  5. S
  6. WR (I actually think we are pretty good in terms of WR, we just need to give them some more time)
In other words, just about everything we have needed to address for the past 10 years. We have a GM, now we need better or just more of a scouting dept.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:09 AM   #3
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really ? you think we won't win another game ? come on guys .. it's been a rough few weeks no doubt about it .. are we a playoff team, NO .. did injuries play a bigger part than I personally thought pre-buffalo .. YES .. Moss was a big blow to this team along with Cooley ... as far as depth is concerned .. we tried to get depth .. Stallworth (was not a bad signing at the time) .. AA had an amazing season last year, REMEMBER ... Hankerson WE ALL LOVED THAT DRAFT PICK .. Niles Paul will be solid .. Fred Davis is a probowler for the next 5 years ... we had depth we just ran into a buzz saw with all this craziness mixed in with a QB change when we clearly don't have a QB. Blaine Gabbert ? Jake Locker ? Andy Dalton & Cam Newton are bad ass but we didn't have a shot at them ... there were no free agents or trades available except for Kolb, how's that working out ? Shanny/Allen get 5 years plain and simple ... we don't have a choice ... let them do there thing, live with crappy days like Sunday and live with good days that will come .. I still believe we end up 8-8 and end up in the right direction ... all that being said we are 3-4 and tied for 2nd in the NFC East with the division leader facing an absolute brutal schedule. Oh BTW we beat them and get to play Eagles and Cowboys again ... I firmly believe that this team is going to come out strong this week vs SF. Get back to running rock especially with Helu. Hang in there for a few more weeks play .500 ball, hopefully get Moss back for final 5 games and let the chips fall where they may ... Games like the Bills game usually either turn a season around or just dump the entire season into the trash can .. i tend to think that we will turn it around .. Shanny doesn't deserve all the bashing, this roster was a nightmare when they got it and they have been BUILDING a team and it takes time .. 2 years from now we will look back at this season and say wow they went from 6-10 to 8-8, drafted a QB in 2012 loaded with QB's and went 10-6 .... now we are in the Super Bowl .. ahh my vision is money
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Re: Positions Which Need to Be Addressed

With the below average QB play so far this season, the Redskins would have been better off keeping Donovan McNabb, and McNabb would have probably played better in his second year in this offense. So Mike Shanahan deserves a ton a criticism for one, trading for McNabb and giving up a second and fourth rounder, and two, not retaining McNabb because neither Grossman or Beck can fill McNabb's shoes.

So, the priority next offseason is definitely a quarterback. Mike Shanahan also deserves even more criticism because he should have known that John Beck or Rex Grossman were average QB, far below the Tom Brady's, Peyton Mannings, and Matt Schuabs of the world.
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With the below average QB play so far this season, the Redskins would have been better off keeping Donovan McNabb, and McNabb would have probably played better in his second year in this offense. So Mike Shanahan deserves a ton a criticism for one, trading for McNabb and giving up a second and fourth rounder, and two, not retaining McNabb because neither Grossman or Beck can fill McNabb's shoes.

So, the priority next offseason is definitely a quarterback. Mike Shanahan also deserves even more criticism because he should have known that John Beck or Rex Grossman were average QB, far below the Tom Brady's, Peyton Mannings, and Matt Schuabs of the world.
The man got his ass benched for a rookie who has the same amount of time and experience to learn a new offense. The bitch even tried to hype up the new relationship with Musgrave as much better than his with Kyle's because Musgrave supposedly tailored the offense to his strengths. And he still got his ass benched...

And actually, Musgrave probably ran a WCO, so he should have been comfy in that offense.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:10 AM   #6
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Re: Positions Which Need to Be Addressed

Our biggest and most important upgrade we need is without a doubt:


1) The Fans - I keep hearing how Redskins fans are some of the most intelligent out of the NFL, but I simply don't see it. (probably same throughout the league) I see a good many who are just as knee jerk reactionary about this team as our lousy owner is. What kills me the most is these same people are probably the same ones bashing Snyder for doing exactly what they are doing. /facepalm



2) QB- The most important position on the field. QB play can make lesser talent look better and make better talent look worse. It hasn't been all of our QBs fault, but it certainly needs to be upgraded big time.


3)OL - We are seeing what happens when injuries occur on the OL front. The line had been playing well for most of the year, but we seriously need some more depth and upgrades in the OL. I do think people are overlooking the injuries.

4) WR- Hard to tell if our receivers are part of the problem or it's QB play. We are in dire need of a big time play maker though. If it's a QB problem, then you can move this down the list.

5) CBs- Time to trade D. Hall in for somebody with less mouth and more action.



This team really has so many needs. I think people's expectations went too high with the early wins and great off-season. This team still lacks a ton of talent from top to bottom. We are however getting there.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:24 AM   #7
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Our biggest and most important upgrade we need is without a doubt:


1) The Fans - I keep hearing how Redskins fans are some of the most intelligent out of the NFL, but I simply don't see it. (probably same throughout the league) I see a good many who are just as knee jerk reactionary about this team as our lousy owner is. What kills me the most is these same people are probably the same ones bashing Snyder for doing exactly what they are doing. /facepalm



2) QB- The most important position on the field. QB play can make lesser talent look better and make better talent look worse. It hasn't been all of our QBs fault, but it certainly needs to be upgraded big time.


3)OL - We are seeing what happens when injuries occur on the OL front. The line had been playing well for most of the year, but we seriously need some more depth and upgrades in the OL. I do think people are overlooking the injuries.

4) WR- Hard to tell if our receivers are part of the problem or it's QB play. We are in dire need of a big time play maker though. If it's a QB problem, then you can move this down the list.

5) CBs- Time to trade D. Hall in for somebody with less mouth and more action.



This team really has so many needs. I think people's expectations went too high with the early wins and great off-season. This team still lacks a ton of talent from top to bottom. We are however getting there.
I agree CB is an issue. But Wilson and Barnes are having bad game after bad game. PB hasnt seen the field and has proven to be a waste of roster space so far. But yet we need to trade D. Hall? He's not having a bad year. Im more frustrated we let Carlos go, gave Wilson money and drafted this POS Barnes in the first place.

Also funny are these ideas that trades are just easily made.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:33 AM   #8
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Re: Positions Which Need to Be Addressed

This team needs a Brandon Flowers type CB, not the pretend CB's we have.
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This team needs a Brandon Flowers type CB, not the pretend CB's we have.
I mentioned him last week. he was really showing his ass last night in front of a national audience. Guy has turned into a very solid player.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:54 AM   #10
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I agree CB is an issue. But Wilson and Barnes are having bad game after bad game. PB hasnt seen the field and has proven to be a waste of roster space so far. But yet we need to trade D. Hall? He's not having a bad year. Im more frustrated we let Carlos go, gave Wilson money and drafted this POS Barnes in the first place.

Also funny are these ideas that trades are just easily made.

I wasn't insinuating we "trade" him. I said "trade him in". As in, get rid of the bad part and pick up a newer better part(whether we cut/trade/draft/etc). I agree, it's not just D. Hall stinking up the joint in the secondary, but he gets the most emphasis because he runs his mouth the most. If you want the limelight, be prepared to get burned by as well.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:13 PM   #11
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I don't think we have the best secondary and it needs improvement, especially in depth, but it is not anywhere near the top of our problem areas. Any changes in defense this offseason should focus on depth and bringing in young players that could be starters in the near future (such as replacements for Atogwe, Hall).

Shanahan needs to focus on building up the offense first and foremost. We probably would have few complaints about the defense if the offense could put together a decent game.
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Re: Positions Which Need to Be Addressed

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Our biggest and most important upgrade we need is without a doubt:


1) The Fans - I keep hearing how Redskins fans are some of the most intelligent out of the NFL, but I simply don't see it. (probably same throughout the league) I see a good many who are just as knee jerk reactionary about this team as our lousy owner is. What kills me the most is these same people are probably the same ones bashing Snyder for doing exactly what they are doing. /facepalm



2) QB- The most important position on the field. QB play can make lesser talent look better and make better talent look worse. It hasn't been all of our QBs fault, but it certainly needs to be upgraded big time.


3)OL - We are seeing what happens when injuries occur on the OL front. The line had been playing well for most of the year, but we seriously need some more depth and upgrades in the OL. I do think people are overlooking the injuries.

4) WR- Hard to tell if our receivers are part of the problem or it's QB play. We are in dire need of a big time play maker though. If it's a QB problem, then you can move this down the list.

5) CBs- Time to trade D. Hall in for somebody with less mouth and more action.



This team really has so many needs. I think people's expectations went too high with the early wins and great off-season. This team still lacks a ton of talent from top to bottom. We are however getting there.
The fans? We don't get on the field. The pats only have fans because they started winning. We aren't going to turn the team around. Is that you Larry Michael?
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Re: Positions Which Need to Be Addressed

It starts in the trenches.....solidify the lines. We are getting dominated on both sides of the ball on the lines.
We have the picks and the $$ under the cap to address this and other needs in the off-season.
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Yep, trade all the fans to the Colorado Rockies.
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QB!!...OL !,WR..That would do it..CHAMPIONSHIP!!
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