Around the NFL Week 11

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Tebow's play right now is basically the wildcat with a tad bit more accuracy (than let's say a RB throwing the ball). But just like the wildcat, teams will gameplan better and they will catch up to it.

Yes sir, they will.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes sir, they will.

No, the wildcat never had Tesus.... That's one half Tebow, one half Jesus.

[skinsfaninok]

Denver will win the West as I predicted in the preseason :-)

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Denver will win the West as I predicted in the preseason :-)

Da Raidahs will not allow it.

[mlmpetert]

Tebowing

[Ruhskins]

By the way, am I the only one that picked up the fact that Tebow's celebration ended with his teammates piling up on him and knocking him to the ground...isn't that a penalty? Just saying.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

By the way, am I the only one that picked up the fact that Tebow's celebration ended with his teammates piling up on him and knocking him to the ground...isn't that a penalty? Just saying.

....and you think candles on a birthday cake is a fire hazard. Party pooper!

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Because the Jets allowed them to hang around with their own shitty QB play. Why do fans always treasure somebody else trash?

The last Denver drive was 95 yards...95!

You are telling me that the "much heralded" Rex Ryan defense could not even stop the spread option? Or stop a QB whose accuracy is so bad that if he we're throwing from a boat he couldn't hit water?

My point is, there's a lot more wrong with the Jets then just the slow development (or dare I say, REGRESSION) of Sanchez. They are a team that has played in the last 2 conference championship games. The defense allowing a 95 yard drive in the final 2 minutes of a game is inexcusable.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

The last Denver drive was 95 yards...95!

You are telling me that the "much heralded" Rex Ryan defense could not even stop the spread option? Or stop a QB whose accuracy is so bad that if he we're throwing from a boat he couldn't hit water?

My point is, there's a lot more wrong with the Jets then just the slow development (or dare I say, REGRESSION) of Sanchez. They are a team that has played in the last 2 conference championship games. The defense allowing a 95 yard drive in the final 2 minutes of a game is inexcusable.

I didnt watch the game but I heard Cowturd say the jets played him different on the last drive then they had been playing him the whole game,basically they went into prevent defense mode and it backfired

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I didnt watch the game but I heard Cowturd say the jets played him different on the last drive then they had been playing him the whole game,basically they went into prevent defense mode and it backfired

Indeed... If you get a chance to look at the replay, you will notice that the Jets had their nickel personnel on the field for just about every play of the final drive. That is one more DB and one less DL or LB on the field - - against a guy you would pray would spend the drive on pass plays.

Don't know who decided to do that - - Rex or the defensive coordinator - - but that decision came back to bite the Jets in the butt.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

The last Denver drive was 95 yards...95!

You are telling me that the "much heralded" Rex Ryan defense could not even stop the spread option? Or stop a QB whose accuracy is so bad that if he we're throwing from a boat he couldn't hit water?

My point is, there's a lot more wrong with the Jets then just the slow development (or dare I say, REGRESSION) of Sanchez. They are a team that has played in the last 2 conference championship games. The defense allowing a 95 yard drive in the final 2 minutes of a game is inexcusable.

That "much heralded" defense is "much overrated". THAT has been the reason why I think the Jets have been a average team this year, and it's not because of their QB play (which is lacking). It's been their defense. That defense the past two years is nothing like the defense that is currently on the field. Losing Shaun Ellis was huge, and his production hasn't been replaced yet. They are giving up a average of 117 yards rushing per game with a 4.0 average per carry. That's not a good defense.

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[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

That "much heralded" defense is "much overrated". THAT has been the reason why I think the Jets have been a average team this year, and it's not because of their QB play (which is lacking). It's been their defense. That defense the past two years is nothing like the defense that is currently on the field. Losing Shaun Ellis was huge, and his production hasn't been replaced yet. They are giving up a average of 117 yards rushing per game with a 4.0 average per carry. That's not a good defense.

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Losing Kris Jenkins also hurts.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Losing Kris Jenkins also hurts.

He wasn't really a factor in the 2010 and 2009 seasons. He played 1 game in 2010 and 6 in 2009 (Rex's first year), but he was beastly in 2008 though. Guy just couldn't really stay healthy, but he was good when he was in the game.

[skinsfaninok]

The league has caught up to ryans d in NY, Baltimore had ray Lewis and Ed reed BIG difference.. Yeah jets have revis but really who is that teams "great" LB or Pass Rusher?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The league has caught up to ryans d in NY, Baltimore had ray Lewis and Ed reed BIG difference.. Yeah jets have revis but really who is that teams "great" LB or Pass Rusher?

They lost their best pass rusher in Shaun Ellis (to the Pats), but I disagree with you that they lack a "great" LB. David Harris is a beast and one of the best linebackers in the AFC. The problem has been their defensive line. A good/great DL will make your linebackers into All-Pro. You mention Ray Lewis, but the key to the Ravens has and always will be their defensive line. Even dating back to when Tony Siragusa and Sam Adams anchored that line, they have been top notch since Ray Lewis has been there. Had RL played at Detroit, he most likely wouldn't be 1/2 the player he is today.