2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

[Dirtbag59]

Per Mel Kiper.

1. Washington Redskins

Not only do the Redskins not have a long-term solution at the position in either Rex Grossman or John Beck, they've won enough to be well out of the Andrew Luck race. Washington could be better served trying to deal for a quarterback, or getting into position for a guy like Matt Barkley or Landry Jones. But there's a problem: If you think the Skins have a roster that's ready to compete for a playoff position in 2012 -- and I certainly think they could -- do you really want a rookie in there? I wonder if the Redskins are a team that looks at a trade for a current starter, or targets a guy who might be ready to take over, such as Matt Flynn or Brian Hoyer. Either way, this is a team that is in desperate need of a solution.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Per Mel Kiper.

1. Washington Redskins

Not only do the Redskins not have a long-term solution at the position in either Rex Grossman or John Beck, they've won enough to be well out of the Andrew Luck race. Washington could be better served trying to deal for a quarterback, or getting into position for a guy like Matt Barkley or Landry Jones. But there's a problem: If you think the Skins have a roster that's ready to compete for a playoff position in 2012 -- and I certainly think they could -- do you really want a rookie in there? I wonder if the Redskins are a team that looks at a trade for a current starter, or targets a guy who might be ready to take over, such as Matt Flynn or Brian Hoyer. Either way, this is a team that is in desperate need of a solution.

I rather have Rex start then Flynn or Hoyer who have not been in this system.

[joeyt56]

I keep hearing speculation of which QB we should take this year but then as of now since the draft is still months away, id like to know what the hell everyone plans to do if 2 or 3 of the top four prspects elect to stay at school. Yes, i want nothing more than to land barkley or RG3 but what if them and luck shocking all stay in school. I dont like the idea of setteling for a 2nd round QB considering its our biggest need. Just for shits and giggles (maybe a new thread?) But lets say all the non senior QBs stay in school, what is everyones 1st round prospect? Im just tired of talking QBs that might not even come out. We all want one of the top 3/4 but what is everyone elses most pressing need? Mine is OL or more specifically OL in general.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by joeyt56

I keep hearing speculation of which QB we should take this year but then as of now since the draft is still months away, id like to know what the hell everyone plans to do if 2 or 3 of the top four prspects elect to stay at school. Yes, i want nothing more than to land barkley or RG3 but what if them and luck shocking all stay in school. I dont like the idea of setteling for a 2nd round QB considering its our biggest need. Just for shits and giggles (maybe a new thread?) But lets say all the non senior QBs stay in school, what is everyones 1st round prospect? Im just tired of talking QBs that might not even come out. We all want one of the top 3/4 but what is everyone elses most pressing need? Mine is OL or more specifically OL in general.

THANK YOU *sobs*. In slight seriousness though it will be back to the annual "next years class will be better" charade.

Originally Posted by Big C

just curious, why are people touting matt flynn as a possible solution? what has he shown that makes you think he will be a decent nfl starter? he wasnt even great in college and hasnt done anything in the pros so im wondering why people are projecting him to be a potential starter somewhere.

and of course


Play backup QB for the Packers and you're going to win a starting job. It's an indisputable fact.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by joeyt56

I keep hearing speculation of which QB we should take this year but then as of now since the draft is still months away, id like to know what the hell everyone plans to do if 2 or 3 of the top four prspects elect to stay at school. Yes, i want nothing more than to land barkley or RG3 but what if them and luck shocking all stay in school. I dont like the idea of setteling for a 2nd round QB considering its our biggest need. Just for shits and giggles (maybe a new thread?) But lets say all the non senior QBs stay in school, what is everyones 1st round prospect? Im just tired of talking QBs that might not even come out. We all want one of the top 3/4 but what is everyone elses most pressing need? Mine is OL or more specifically OL in general.

This what I wrote in an earlier post: If Jones and Barkley don't come out then I wouldn't know what to do other than to draft RGIII. If none of those three comes out, I probably wouldn't draft a QB before the third round (I also would cry softly into my pillow).

To be more specific, I think (as a lot of us do) that our three greatest needs are 1) Starting QB, 2) Impact WR, and 3) OL. So, I'd try to get in position to draft WR Justin Blackmon in Round 1. Then, I'd look to draft two either two interior OL or an OG and an OT within the first four rounds. I'd also look to draft a developmental QB by the fourth round. The rest of my draft would be BPA. Our Franchise QB would have to wait until 2013.

I'd plan to go with Rex as my starting QB in 2012 but I would bring in a vet to compete with him for the job. I'd cut John Beck. I'd also try to improve the OL in FA, if possible. If the OL plays better, then the entire offense, including Rex, will play better.

[Big C]

just curious, why are people touting matt flynn as a possible solution? what has he shown that makes you think he will be a decent nfl starter? he wasnt even great in college and hasnt done anything in the pros so im wondering why people are projecting him to be a potential starter somewhere.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Big C

just curious, why are people touting matt flynn as a possible solution? what has he shown that makes you think he will be a decent nfl starter? he wasnt even great in college and hasnt done anything in the pros so im wondering why people are projecting him to be a potential starter somewhere.

It's rediculous. He played one good game against New England last year and apparently now he's starter material. I guess watching a great QB play makes you become one. Basically having a great QB is like a license to sell knockoffs at a premium...

[skinsfaninok]

^ this

[skinsfaninok]

No one is saying Matt Flynn will be great lol just saying why not take a chance on him? He's better than what we got now I promise u that

[skinsfaninok]

2012 NFL Mock Draft: Full First-Round Predictions | Bleacher Report

"My opinion on Baylor's Robert Griffin III is very fluid, one week I have him in the top ten and the next he is out of the first round. One thing I know is that Griffin III is a terrific athlete who is showing that he is capable of playing quarterback at the next level.

The concerns I have mainly surround his style of play and limited experience in a pro-style offense. Baylor employs a wide open spread attack, which doesn't allow Griffin III to make many reads. Most of his reads are made pre-snap or to one side of the field. The NFL is all about reading defenses and making good decisions.

Griffin III will likely be a first round selection, mainly due to his potential. The Washington Redskins are in desperate need of an answer at the quarterback position. Mike Shanahan is known as an offensive guru, making Griffin III an intriguing addition."

[GusFrerotte]

The solution is Tannehill, Keenum, or Moore and a mid round QB like Persa, etc in rounds 3-5. I am having flashbacks to 1994 when we got Shuler then Frerotte. Shuler sucked, and we brought in Frerotte to salvage something, and had a young Trent Green as backup. IF Tannehill doesn't pan out, a Dan Persa, or another starting QB of less reknown could be serviceable if not surprise us and be a Flacco. To be honest, I think we really get too much into the hype about QBs. Being a stud in NCAA Div I doesn't mean anything in the pros. How does a Heath Shuler or Ryan Leaf totally suck and a guy like Tom Brady become a stud? RG III could be a very good qb or he could suck in the pros. Same goes for Luck. Cam Newton and to a lesser extent Sam Bradford somewhat lived up to the hype, but for every one of those guys there are a dozen Joey Harringtons and Patrick Ramseys. No matter who we pick first, it is still a gamble.

[SFREDSKIN]

Luck and Barkley are playing great, RGIII played briefly and the team scored 66 pts. mainly without him, interesting?

Barkley is just a flat out stud, love that kid and would to see him in Burgundy and Gold.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

The solution is Tannehill, Keenum, or Moore and a mid round QB like Persa, etc in rounds 3-5. I am having flashbacks to 1994 when we got Shuler then Frerotte. Shuler sucked, and we brought in Frerotte to salvage something, and had a young Trent Green as backup. IF Tannehill doesn't pan out, a Dan Persa, or another starting QB of less reknown could be serviceable if not surprise us and be a Flacco. To be honest, I think we really get too much into the hype about QBs. Being a stud in NCAA Div I doesn't mean anything in the pros. How does a Heath Shuler or Ryan Leaf totally suck and a guy like Tom Brady become a stud? RG III could be a very good qb or he could suck in the pros. Same goes for Luck. Cam Newton and to a lesser extent Sam Bradford somewhat lived up to the hype, but for every one of those guys there are a dozen Joey Harringtons and Patrick Ramseys. No matter who we pick first, it is still a gamble.

I agree. If Shanahan really knows QBs like he claims, then he would just go with the safest selection. I saw flaws in Landry Jones game this year that I didn't see last season. He's still very accurate and putting up huge stats and QB ratings, but Landry Jones would be either hit or miss. Matt Barkley would be the safest draft choice. He's everything you want in a QB. Luck is the best of them all and is great too, but unless Bruce Allen makes a bold trade, I don't see the Redskins landing Luck. And lastly, Robert Griffin III is extremely talented. He has the makings of a tremendous pro quarterback. I'm sure Mike Shanahan, as much as a mirco managing coach talent evaluator that he is, will take RG3 into high consideration.

[skinsfaninok]

I'd take any of the 3 and pray We will

[CultBrennan59]

I couldn't believe it when I heard that Matt Barkley threw 6 TD's against UCLA...you know, he could be better than Luck