NFL taking away Redskins cap space

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Haynesworth guaranteed money $21 mil, Hall $15 mil = $36 mil

Thats fine, but I still dont get how they would assume that we would have paid them $0 otherwise?

[MTK]

NFL warned teams “at least six times” about not dumping salary in uncapped year | ProFootballTalk

League strips Cowboys, Redskins of millions in cap space | ProFootballTalk

[los panda]

i want to lawyer up

[vallin21]

The timing of it (1 day before FA) is what pisses me off... The league could've picked an earlier or later date to inform us of this

[FRPLG]

I don't care if there was an agreement or not. An "agreement" is a hell of a lot different than a legally binding contract or an operational set of rules. Just deciding together not to do it means nothing unless they officially enacted some type of resolution with established rules and consequences. Or at least something that officially forbade it. And why in the world wasn't the solution just to void the contracts at the time?

"Hey don't break any rules that don't really exists or else!!!! Or else, or else we'll let you do it and a whole season later we'll make up a punishment that we have no idea what it could be for now but it'll be bad! NO really don't break the non-existent rule we all agreed to but probably shouldn't ever let the players know about since it can't possibly be legal. Hey wait!! Stop breaking the 'rule'!! "

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I don't care if there was an agreement or not. An "agreement" is a hell of a lot different than a legally binding contract or an operational set of rules. Just deciding together not to do it means nothing unless they officially enacted some type of resolution with established rules and consequences. Or at least something that officially forbade it. And why in the world wasn't the solution just to void the contracts at the time?

"Hey don't break any rules that don't really exists or else!!!! Or else, or else we'll let you do it and a whole season later we'll make up a punishment that we have no idea what it could be for now but it'll be bad! NO really don't break the non-existent rule we all agreed to but probably shouldn't ever let the players know about since it can't possibly be legal. Hey wait!! Stop breaking the 'rule'!! "

This.

Further:

This seems a pretty ridiculous thing for the league to do. Either the year is uncapped or it's not. To tell teams, "Yeah, it's uncapped, but don't spend too much this year just because of that, or we'll fine you for it down the road" feels a little bit like collusion to me. But this is the NFL, which does what it wants and makes up the rules as it goes along. The Cowboys and the Redskins surely know that, and the fact that they were the only two teams found to have engaged egregiously enough in this behavior to deserve a huge loss of salary-cap space indicates that they should have known better. I mean, when you're found to be dirtier than the Raiders and the Saints, you kind of have to look in the mirror and re-think the way you're doing business.

Cowboys, Redskins punished ... but why? - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN

[redskins5044]

Was Haynesworth deal ever restructured?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

Was Haynesworth deal ever restructured?

Oh yes. We are absolutely "guilty" on this.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Oh yes. We are absolutely "guilty" on this.

Im wondering if thats how they came up with the full 21 million for him. If it was an option bonus we wouldnt have paid nearly any of it, i would think. Dont know about the 15 on Hall though.

Redskins’ Albert Haynesworth plans to report to training camp - Washington Times

It’s unknown whether the club has tried to recoup at least a portion of the $22 million in signing bonus money paid to Haynesworth during the 2010 season.

Signing bonuses were subject to forfeiture under the recently expired collective bargaining agreement between the league and the players’ union, and the Redskins protected themselves last offseason when they converted Haynesworth’s $21 million option bonus to a signing bonus.

The additional $1 million is a prorated portion of the $5 million signing bonus Haynesworth earned when he signed with the Redskins.

[donofriose]

Goodell should be removed.

There was a lockout... his job is literally to keep the NFL running smoothly and he failed. Football has become a softer sport which is not way we watch it and a lot of his penalties seem to be penalties based on opinions. Wanted an 18 game season which would water down the sport, keeps trying to make it international which won't ever work. Doesn't truly care about player safety in my opinion just trying to appeal to the majority of americans. Trying to make football every night of the week which ruins the traditions... Thanksgiving isn't a night for thursday night football. Cowboys and Lions, keep with the tradition. friday: high school, saturday: college, sunday: NFL, and a single primetime monday night football game, that is all. I do not like Goodell as you can tell.

[MTK]

We shot ourselves in the foot folks, no sense in looking for someone else to blame.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

We shot ourselves in the foot folks, no sense in looking for someone else to blame.

Do explain...

Perhaps you could explain how we are to follow non-existent rules.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Do explain...

Perhaps you could explain how we are to follow non-existent rules.

Rules or not, if the league is telling you to not do something, and you do it anyway, what do you expect?

But this is the NFL, which does what it wants and makes up the rules as it goes along. The Cowboys and the Redskins surely know that, and the fact that they were the only two teams found to have engaged egregiously enough in this behavior to deserve a huge loss of salary-cap space indicates that they should have known better.

Cowboys, Redskins punished ... but why? - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Rules or not, if the league is telling you to not do something, and you do it anyway, what do you expect?

I expect the league to follow actual rules. Not make shit up as they go along. It's sort of how a civilized society works.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I expect the league to follow actual rules. Not make shit up as they go along. It's sort of how a civilized society works.

Or to enforce the rules by not approving restructured contracts that violate their own rules (if that is the case).