A Clarification on whether the Redskins are Re-Building

[Kope]

as for the OL, Helu and Royster - when our line was at its most depleted we had a 100 yard rusher 5 of the last 6 games......that is a good place to start next year.

That is starting to sound like the - insert a back - Shanahan running game.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Giving RG3 the keys to the offense is similar to what Joe Gibbs did with a young Mark Rypien in 1988 and 1989. And if the defense can improve on it 13th place ranking from a season ago, this Redskins team can go very far.

Neither here nor there but you know what I remember about Rypien? He was rarely ever touched.
There was a 26 game span where he was sacked a total of 13 times.
13 times.
We had the type of OL that could make Blaine Gabbert look like a world beater.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Neither here nor there but you know what I remember about Rypien? He was rarely ever touched.
There was a 26 game span where he was sacked a total of 13 times.
13 times.
We had the type of OL that could make Blaine Gabbert look like a world beater.

I just don't think those OL's happen anymore. Right now, the defenses in the league have progressed and pressure is going to happen in most games. You need a qb that can be elusive and help make the OL better. Peyton Manning is a great example of that.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I just don't think those OL's happen anymore. Right now, the defenses in the league have progressed and pressure is going to happen in most games. You need a qb that can be elusive and help make the OL better. Peyton Manning is a great example of that.

I get the feeling that you think I'm implying something rather then pointing out a flaw in the scenario below:

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Giving RG3 the keys to the offense is similar to what Joe Gibbs did with a young Mark Rypien in 1988 and 1989.

Rypien was handed the keys to an offense protected by one of the best OL in NFL history; RG3 is being handed the keys to an OL that we hope will be near league average.

I agree that its unlikely that an OL like the hogs happen again; but not because of the defenses but because of cost.
In todays NFL an OL of that quality would be very expensive to maintain.
But, that's not to say that teams don't strive to build and invest in the OL.
Every year there are teams that provide excellent pass protection.
Most years there are a few teams that give up less then 20 sacks.
Almost a 1/3 of the league gives up less then 30.

And I completely disagree that you need an elusive QB to make an OL (seem) more productive.
Offensive lines by and large are who they are; a QB isn't going to make them 'block' better.
But, I agree that a QB along with a good scheme can help an OL lower its sack totals.
Also, Peyton Manning is a lot of things but elusive is not one of them.
Non-elusive QBs like Peyton and Brady often have lower sack totals then elusive QBs Rothlisberger, Rodgers, Vick but that could be for a lot of reasons.
Low sack numbers are generally a result of good decision making + good OL play.

And the Patriots have invested the resources needed to build and maintain a quality OL.
The Colts offenses typically featured strong OL and their recent struggles have been linked to the decline of the their OL.
One of the overlooked reasons for Cam Newton's success is the quality of the Panthers OL.

[SkinItup]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

If the passing game can become explosive, then the Redskins should be able to rack up yardage and points. When was the last time the Redskins had two wide receivers go over 1,000 yards in a season? Michael Wesbrook and Albert Connell way back in 1999. If Garcon and Hankerson can each top 1,000 yards worth of receptions, and if Helu can rush for over 1,000 yards then consider the offense completely fixed.

Giving RG3 the keys to the offense is similar to what Joe Gibbs did with a young Mark Rypien in 1988 and 1989. And if the defense can improve on it 13th place ranking from a season ago, this Redskins team can go very far.

At preseason's end, quite a few NFL analysts were predicting the Redskins to win the NFC east. Well, what will they say this coming season especially when the Redskins have more explosive weapons than a year ago?

The only person I remember saying it was Michael Lombardi and I also remember him saying something about regretting that choice in mid-October.

[MTK]

Kid hasn't even been drafted and we're already speculating about his 2nd contract?

Man, when is the draft already?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Kid hasn't even been drafted and we're already speculating about his 2nd contract?

Man, when is the draft already?

No kidding.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Kid hasn't even been drafted and we're already speculating about his 2nd contract?

Man, when is the draft already?

Are you saying it is too early to start a RG3 HOF thread? LOL.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Are you saying it is too early to start a RG3 HOF thread? LOL.

F it, how about a RGIV thread?

[SkinItup]

RG3 will make our OL look better without a doubt. Just like Vick does in Philly and they have a worse line than us.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SkinItup

RG3 will make our OL look better without a doubt. Just like Vick does in Philly and they have a worse line than us.

You think our OL is better then Eagles?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 30gut

You think our OL is better then Eagles?

I don't. U?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't. U?

Lol, no.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by 30gut

You think our OL is better then Eagles?

I think when healthy, the 'skins OL is pretty solid.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Yes I do believe when healthy Washington has the better line