Pro-gun article

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

You probably agree with his stance on Unicorn Leash Laws, don't you?

Nope,see this is a trick question ,everyone knows all the hunters shot and killed all the Unicorns .

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I liked Jon Stewarts solution. The founding fathers never anticipated automatic weapons when they included the right to bear arms. Stop making handguns and let everyone have as many muskets as they want.

By that logic, no speech on the telephone, cell, fax, radio, tv, and internet is safe from censorship and prosecution either, since the founding fathers never anticipated those mediums of speech when they wrote the first amendment.

I don't agree with that "solution" either.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I liked Jon Stewarts solution. The founding fathers never anticipated automatic weapons when they included the right to bear arms. Stop making handguns and let everyone have as many muskets as they want.

Well if we took that reasoning a musket was the best weapon at the time and transfer that to todays time. The left seems to think that the consitution needs to change with the times until it does not fit their agenda.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well if we took that reasoning a musket was the best weapon at the time and transfer that to todays time. The left seems to think that the consitution needs to change with the times until it does not fit their agenda.

Bingo!

[Giantone]

ATF: Store that sold guns to Adam Lanza's mom had hundreds of violations | Detroit Free Press | freep.com


ATF: Store that sold guns to Adam Lanza's mom had hundreds of violations

"Although the licensee committed over 500 violations, and thus clearly did many things incorrectly, the licensee also successfully completed hundreds of transactions where all the requirements were completed correctly,” the letter says. "This conclusively demonstrates that the licensee knew how to do things the right way, and was capable of getting things right when appropriate attention and effort were devoted to the job, but simply did not focus sufficient attention to ensure that he complied with the GCA (Gun Control Act) each time he sold a firearm.”


"did not focus sufficient attention".........Great just what you need from a gun dealer.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Giantone

ATF: Store that sold guns to Adam Lanza's mom had hundreds of violations | Detroit Free Press | freep.com


ATF: Store that sold guns to Adam Lanza's mom had hundreds of violations

More 'Closing the door after the horse has bolted' nonsense. How were they permitted to run up that many violations?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Giantone

ATF: Store that sold guns to Adam Lanza's mom had hundreds of violations | Detroit Free Press | freep.com


ATF: Store that sold guns to Adam Lanza's mom had hundreds of violations

"Although the licensee committed over 500 violations, and thus clearly did many things incorrectly, the licensee also successfully completed hundreds of transactions where all the requirements were completed correctly,” the letter says. "This conclusively demonstrates that the licensee knew how to do things the right way, and was capable of getting things right when appropriate attention and effort were devoted to the job, but simply did not focus sufficient attention to ensure that he complied with the GCA (Gun Control Act) each time he sold a firearm.”


"did not focus sufficient attention".........Great just what you need from a gun dealer.

The fault is with the goverment agency that did not shut them down after so many violations. The laws were in place and the goverment failed to enforce them and allowed the business to rack up violation after violation.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The fault is with the goverment agency that did not shut them down after so many violations. The laws were in place and the goverment failed to enforce them and allowed the business to rack up violation after violation.

LOL, right, not the fault of the store owner to run his store in the right and responsible way, it's the government's fault but we will still complain government interferes ,you can't have it both ways.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well if we took that reasoning a musket was the best weapon at the time and transfer that to todays time. The left seems to think that the consitution needs to change with the times until it does not fit their agenda.

So if weapons become more destructive, people should be allowed more destructive weapons? How much firepower is really needed to protect ones self and ones family?

200 years ago your average nuttjub couldn't kill more than one or two people with a gun before being taken down. Now one can go into a cool and massacre dozens of children. I do think the James Bond fingerprint gun would be a good solution. It would allow the gun owner - and only the gun owner - to fire a weapon.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I do think the James Bond fingerprint gun would be a good solution. It would allow the gun owner - and only the gun owner - to fire a weapon.

Oh NO! That would be against the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment .lol

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

So if weapons become more destructive, people should be allowed more destructive weapons? How much firepower is really needed to protect ones self and ones family?

200 years ago your average nuttjub couldn't kill more than one or two people with a gun before being taken down. Now one can go into a cool and massacre dozens of children. I do think the James Bond fingerprint gun would be a good solution. It would allow the gun owner - and only the gun owner - to fire a weapon.

Would that not encourage people to buy more then one gun for protection. What are you going to do with the millions of guns on the streets or how will you stop the underground sales of guns?

[Alvin Walton]

So say I currently have one hand gun in the house that my wife and my 18 year old daughter and I use for household protection.

The law changes and I have to turn in my gun.

Since only finger print guns exist I have to buy three of them, one for each of us.

Gongratulations, I now have two additional guns in my house.


How would the manufacturer be able to properly test your gun?

How would a gunsmith be able to service your gun?

It will never happen......

[RedskinRat]

I find the arguments pathetic. When Law Enforcement can get to my point of need at or before the person threatening my life, or the life of someone I care about, then I'll happily lock up or give up my firearms.

It won't happen in my lifetime.

[Alvin Walton]

About the millionth time I heard the "founding fathers didnt predict this, didnt predict that" argument.
lame lame lame
The 2nd amendment is there to prevent a dictatorship or monarchy from popping back up.
Working as intended!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

About the millionth time I heard the "founding fathers didnt predict this, didnt predict that" argument.
lame lame lame
The 2nd amendment is there to prevent a dictatorship or monarchy from popping back up.
Working as intended!

In fact the 2nd Amendment, for the purpose it was written(prevention of tyrannical governments), would say that the militia (and hence general population) ought to have the ability to gather and maintain weapons equal to what the government might be able to bring against you. Obviously we no longer see that as a real possibility. (Unless Bill Gates is squirreling away a few F22's somewhere)