New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .

[tshile]

for what it's worth, i've been going to every game for quite a while and will do so again this year.

i don't have an issue with traffice. I show up early and don't try to jump on 495 like 80% of the people leaving the stadium. It takes me an 1:10 to get from my house to my parking spot and 1:20 to get from my seat to my driveway.

the sit down/stand up argument is an old one my position is that the average football iq of stadium goers at fedex is too low and it causes problems. it's one thing to stand on big moments of the game - hell I do it. but the way the stadium is designed if a person stands all game (and many do) the **entire section** has to stand the whole game. go to 8 games a year, year after year, and let me know how long it takes you to start to think that one guy that's there for his one game a year is ruining it for everyone else. standing all game every game isn't the end of the world, but it's really annoying when you pay enough attention and realize it winds up being an entire section inconvenienced by one person...

the parking situation sucks but it's not entirely Snyder's fault. The infrastructure was part of PG county's job, and PG County is the one that decided to take away the bus system for metro riders.

every time i talk to someone about their complaints it almost always boils down to them being a novice and not really understanding things. which can be a bad mark on the stadium itself, but you also have to understand the area. traffic sucks period. try going to a nats/caps game in your car. let me know how that works out. every game i zoom by people waiting to get off at arena drive - traffic backed up onto 495. i go up to my exit and in 10 minutes i'm unloading my car. those people aren't even on the grounds yet. i kind of feel bad for them. kind of. there's guides to getting in and out of that stadium all over the internet, if you can't be bothered to look them up and figure it out then enjoy waiting in traffic.

my biggest complaints are they priced out too many people. when you look around it seems like you see a bunch of drunk 20 somethings that have disposable income to blow on a game or two a year or your have someone that's not even a fan and got tickets from their work or from some business trying to show them a good time.

that and their parking situation sucks. i hope to god they don't build the walk ways *around* the lots at the new stadium. the people don't pay attention to the traffic directors and this causes majority of the traffic problem - if you don't know what you're doing you'll spend half your drive home just waiting to exit the parking lot. they need to build the walk ways through the center of the lots so people can walk straight to their cars and cars can easily leave the lots...

my only other problem is the sheer size of the stadium. i know that if the team was playing better we'd have a higher % of skins fans in the stadium, but there will still be a lot of other teams' fans. bumping it down to a capacity in the 60k's would tip it back to where it should be.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by tshile

for what it's worth, i've been going to every game for quite a while and will do so again this year...

my only other problem is the sheer size of the stadium. i know that if the team was playing better we'd have a higher % of skins fans in the stadium, but there will still be a lot of other teams' fans. bumping it down to a capacity in the 60k's would tip it back to where it should be.

The more you cut back on capacity the higher the price of the ticket and PSL's,less people equal less beer sold ,less food sold ,less everything sold .Also cutting down the capacity will not stop other teams fan from getting in ,stub hub and such have changed all that .

[tshile]

Originally Posted by Giantone

The more you cut back on capacity the higher the price of the ticket and PSL's,less people equal less beer sold ,less food sold ,less everything sold .Also cutting down the capacity will not stop other teams fan from getting in ,stub hub and such have changed all that .

well yeah, you have to decide your product is worth more than squeezing every penny out of its consumers

that may be a good point about stub hub. i don't know. i think there is a threshold where the problem gets worse, i think its somewhere around 70k.

[CRedskinsRule]

It was actually federal guidelines, not PG County that stopped the bus rides. This thread so needs to go into debating with the enemies to continue my thoughts.

Metro Shuttle To FedEx Field Is Scuttled

The team used to charter shuttle buses from Metro, but new federal guidelines prohibit public transit agencies from providing charter bus service if private companies are available to provide the service. Last year, Metro chartered nearly 2,500 buses for revenue of $1.6 million.

[tshile]

Ah, that's right. It was metro. I suppose PG county has nothing to do with Metro

Thank you for the correction!

[CRedskinsRule]

An empty stadium is worth nothing. There is no other sports team locally that would use it (unless a deal could be worked with UofMd which I doubt) so they would gut a lot of FedEx and certainly reuse or make memorabilia out of whatever is possible. Then re-purpose the land. There is no way that Dan Snyder would keep paying upkeep on FedEx and just have it sit there empty. Makes zero sense.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

An empty stadium is worth nothing. There is no other sports team locally that would use it (unless a deal could be worked with UofMd which I doubt) so they would gut a lot of FedEx and certainly reuse or make memorabilia out of whatever is possible. Then re-purpose the land. There is no way that Dan Snyder would keep paying upkeep on FedEx and just have it sit there empty. Makes zero sense.

Ya know if they just add a Johnny Rockets , it just might work !

[tshile]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

An empty stadium is worth nothing. There is no other sports team locally that would use it (unless a deal could be worked with UofMd which I doubt) so they would gut a lot of FedEx and certainly reuse or make memorabilia out of whatever is possible. Then re-purpose the land. There is no way that Dan Snyder would keep paying upkeep on FedEx and just have it sit there empty. Makes zero sense.

Maybe he'll let it fall apart like RFK did. Maybe he'll make PG county agree to pay for the demolition to use the land, and maybe they will because they will be looking at a large chunk of land doing nothing for them. They'll lose all the tax revenue generated by events at the stadium. There may even be an agreement to pardon the Redskins from paying property tax on the stadium, though I have no reason to think that's actually the case.

You're right that something will have to be done about the stadium. But I don't think it's that big of an obstacle. PG county will want to use the land, the Redskins will want to not have it on their asset sheet. Maybe it'll be part of the buyout of the lease. There's a lot of options.

One of which is they could use it for events, but I have a feeling if Snyder builds a new stadium he'll want to use that for all of his events not Fedex Field.

[CRedskinsRule]

Your last line is on point. Snyder (and any large venue owner) is not going to leave a competing structure standing and also pay taxes on it.

[Ghost of George Allen]

Absolutely a dumb idea!!!!!!! C'mon now!! The stadium isn't even 20 years old!!! Snyder trying to bilk the MD or VA taxpayer for something that is totally unnecessary? If Snyder wants to earn more money, why doesn't he concentrate on putting a winning product on the football field, instead of his trying to sucker taxpayers into coughing up more of their $ for something as dumb as a football stadium. IN a few years tax payers are going to need every penny they can get just to stay alive and pay the bills.