The RG3 Sucks - Knee Jerk Reaction Thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Yeah, no one who has reviewed his play on film and actually has a clue wtf they're talking about agrees with you. But keep clinging to the O-line excuse as if it's the soft little woobie that helps you fall alseep at night.

I miss my woobie and im not afraid to admit it.

[SmootSmack]

I never said the OL is pretty good. What I said was the problems go beyond the OL, a unit which we have invested in (wisely? maybe not, but we have)

I said RG3 has to share the blame. And he has to share a lot of the blame, just like he would get a lot of the credit. I said it's not fair, but it's how it is. You're the #2 overall pick. Multiple picks were traded for you. The offense is a quick release offense that benefits a mobile QB so like it or not Rob you have to step up.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I never said the OL is pretty good. What I said was the problems go beyond the OL, a unit which we have invested in (wisely? maybe not, but we have)

I said RG3 has to share the blame. And he has to share a lot of the blame, just like he would get a lot of the credit. I said it's not fair, but it's how it is. You're the #2 overall pick. Multiple picks were traded for you. The offense is a quick release offense that benefits a mobile QB so like it or not Rob you have to step up.

I dont recall saying RG3 doesnt deserve part of the blame. He flat out cost us the bucs game, thats not on anyone else. However, the Minny game is not all on RG3, not even close. He gets the blame rightly for that 4th down throw on the last drive, but no one will even mention the fact that we had a first down already if another stupid penalty hadnt been committed to negate a first down the play prior. No one wants to talk about our false starts on the very first play of a drive that happened several times against the bucs. Those are killers, especially with a young QB. But anytime I say other positions need to improve, here you come with the its the OL's fault meant as sarcasm and other people telling me im nuts that the ONLY problem on this team is RG3.

The fact is if we want to develop a young QB, we need massive improvements elsewhere. Now, If we can get Green Bay to trade us Aaron Rodgers... What are the odds of that happening?

Also, I frankly dont care if we have invested in it. I care if its good. Heres to hoping that Moses and Long develop correctly.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

I dont recall saying RG3 doesnt deserve part of the blame. He flat out cost us the bucs game, thats not on anyone else. However, the Minny game is not all on RG3, not even close. He gets the blame rightly for that 4th down throw on the last drive, but no one will even mention the fact that we had a first down already if another stupid penalty hadnt been committed to negate a first down the play prior. No one wants to talk about our false starts on the very first play of a drive that happened several times against the bucs. Those are killers, especially with a young QB. But anytime I say other positions need to improve, here you come with the its the OL's fault meant as sarcasm and other people telling me im nuts that the ONLY problem on this team is RG3.

The fact is if we want to develop a young QB, we need massive improvements elsewhere. Now, If we can get Green Bay to trade us Aaron Rodgers... What are the odds of that happening?

Also, I frankly dont care if we have invested in it. I care if its good. Heres to hoping that Moses and Long develop correctly.

LOL. Anytime. I said that once and it wasn't to you.

And I never said you only blamed RG3

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

LOL. Anytime. I said that once and it wasn't to you.

And I never said you only blamed RG3

Maybe I could have worded that better. Didnt mean anytime to mean specifically you say that AND someone says the other. I meant it as an either/or type of thing.

As for who you said it to. Well yeah, you didnt quote me the time you quoted that guy that simply said "I agree" to your post. Then went on to give a response that, had you quoted mine from just a few prior, would just happen to be a pretty clear response to it. Maybe it was a fluke, but if it was, look at it from where I am sitting.

To the thread itself. As for this whole conundrum. Take the 5th year extension on him. Work to improve the rest of the team around him. We arent developing anyone soon. Even if we end up drafting Winston/Mariotta, let them sit a year so we dont kill them. If we are moving on, this may sound cold, but you are better off letting RG3 get killed next year while a rookie learns. If he gets it, thats actually not a bad thing.

What it seems people dont know is that the 5th year tag is not guaranteed until the specific league year its associated with starts, which is in March (with one exception). We can still do the 5th year and cut him before March of 16' and owe him nothing if he doesnt get it. If he gets it, thats actually not a bad thing.

The only exception. If the fear if long term injury is to great. If he would get injured in 2015 AND would be out all/large chunk of 2016 (not 100% on the exact amount), then he would get an injury guarantee for that 5th year which we would be on the hook for.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Maybe I could have worded that better. Didnt mean anytime to mean specifically you say that AND someone says the other. I meant it as an either/or type of thing.

As for who you said it to. Well yeah, you didnt quote me the time you quoted that guy that simply said "I agree" to your post. Then went on to give a response that, had you quoted mine from just a few prior, would just happen to be a pretty clear response to it. Maybe it was a fluke, but if it was, look at it from where I am sitting.

To the thread itself. As for this whole conundrum. Take the 5th year extension on him. Work to improve the rest of the team around him. We arent developing anyone soon. Even if we end up drafting Winston/Mariotta, let them sit a year so we dont kill them. If we are moving on, this may sound cold, but you are better off letting RG3 get killed next year while a rookie learns. If he gets it, thats actually not a bad thing.

What it seems people dont know is that the 5th year tag is not guaranteed until the specific league year its associated with starts, which is in March (with one exception). We can still do the 5th year and cut him before March of 16' and owe him nothing if he doesnt get it. If he gets it, thats actually not a bad thing.

The only exception. If the fear if long term injury is to great. If he would get injured in 2015 AND would be out all/large chunk of 2016 (not 100% on the exact amount), then he would get an injury guarantee for that 5th year which we would be on the hook for.

There's absolutely no way we should extend him and take any sort of chance. Let him play out the year and see what happens.

[JWsleep]

Nobody gets a free pass. But should we fire Gruden if we end up 3-13 again? I wouldn't. Should we bring back RGIII next season? I would. My (admittedly slim) hope is that this is part of the U-shaped learning curve that often happens when you have to unlearn old habits and develop new ones. But what are the real options here? I take it Colt is not franchise QB--he's a place-holder at best. So we need to get someone else. Who? Draft? FA? In the meantime, why not play out RGIII for the final six and the first half of next year, just to see? I don't think we've got a better option. Meanwhile, draft and FA more good players and develop some of the young guys. It's an unhappy plan, but if RGIII is a bust, we're looking at a long rebuild. So you might as well keep RGIII as you rebuild just to be sure.

(I think Haz has long sinced proved he's not worth keeping around. How shitty does the D have to be before he's gone???)

[skinsfan69]

What about Sam Bradford? If he could ever stay healthy, he could run this offense and run it pretty well. If I were the Redskins, I'd make a call to the Rams and have a conversation. I'm sure they'd listen.

[BaltimoreSkins]

From what I've seen the o-line is a bottom third o-line. They are not the worst but far from the best. I was disappointed in some Jay's coaching decisions this season but think it is absurd to let him go after one season. That being said the Skins should not pick up Robert's extension for the 5th year. He just hasn't earned it. The weapons that we have on this team most QBs would love to have. For what was shelled out for Robert it is not over reacting to have expectations that he would be making us competitive within the NFCE.

[mredskins]

Sam Bradford anyone? Anyone?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sam Bradford anyone? Anyone?

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What about Sam Bradford? If he could ever stay healthy, he could run this offense and run it pretty well. If I were the Redskins, I'd make a call to the Rams and have a conversation. I'm sure they'd listen.

If the RGIII trade came with a warranty, the Rams DO owe us a QB.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sam Bradford anyone? Anyone?

The only guy more injury prone than RG3?

Yeah I'd pass.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The only guy more injury prone than RG3?



Yeah I'd pass.

When he is healthy he is as good as anybody, but yeah he is probably damaged goods. Real shame.
Edit: if he does get 100% healthy why on earth would he want to come here anyway.


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The only guy more injury prone than RG3?

Yeah I'd pass.

I thought he was a FA after this year, but he is signed through 2015. I would take a look only if FA, but mos def not a trade. pass

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I thought he was a FA after this year, but he is signed through 2015. I would take a look only if FA, but mos def not a trade. pass

Rams most likely will cut him. His salary is too big in 2015 to justify keeping him.