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Old 12-10-2014, 07:14 PM   #1
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No proven or highly sought after coach would... In fact, most of them would already have us crossed out when the process starts...
there are 32 of the jobs in the world . . . and far more eligible coaches (good qualified coaches) than that
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:40 PM   #2
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The real problem is why give an unproven coach a 5 year 25 mill contract? It's not like Gruden was the toast of the NFL and everyone wanted to hire.
True. Especially because we were one of the last teams with a vacancy. We had the leverage at that point.

But hey I found another positive. Since it doesn't look like Griffin is worthy of that $15M a year contract we all thought he'd get, imagine the cap space we have available to make improvements.

Now if only our owner could manage to find a competent football boss to identify the players to take that money.
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Old 12-08-2014, 04:46 PM   #3
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great job putting together that post hail green.

shanny was responsible for the bubble? i always gave credit to the DS for finally opening his wallet for something he cant charge others for ...
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:46 PM   #4
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I think Snyder first wants to make money. Wins don't necessarily equate to more dollars.
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:50 PM   #5
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I think Snyder first wants to make money. Wins don't necessarily equate to more dollars.
Eh?

Wins put butts in seats, home playoff games are big revenue. Wins are the ultimate money maker in this league.

Snyder doesn't need to spend what he does. If all he cared about the was bottom line he's not doing it right.
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Comparison between Jones and ds Is a joke. Jerry has won 3 rings and he at least has his team 500 every yr
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:55 PM   #7
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Comparison between Jones and ds Is a joke. Jerry has won 3 rings and he at least has his team 500 every yr
If you're referring to my post, I only brought up Jerry Jones as an example of an owner who truly runs his team.

Although, if you've read some recent articles/interviews about Jerry Jones, he doesn't feel those SB wins were "his" wins (crazy, I know). And the reason why he won't give up control of the team, is because he wants to win a ring "his" way.
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:54 PM   #8
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Snyder wants to win, it yields more $ than losing for one thing. If he loses long enough the franchise could be at risk for getting moved even.

RG shouldn't be the scapegoat for Gruden's lack of prep and focus. The whole offense has been poorly prepared and undisciplined the whole season, regardless of QB. That's on the HC, no other way to look at it.

Gruden has failed in both areas, specifically with coaching up RG, and broadly with the whole offense looking like it never saw a practice field.

I don't know how anyone is defending him at this point.
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Snyder wants to win, it yields more $ than losing for one thing. If he loses long enough the franchise could be at risk for getting moved even.

RG shouldn't be the scapegoat for Gruden's lack of prep and focus. The whole offense has been poorly prepared and undisciplined the whole season, regardless of QB. That's on the HC, no other way to look at it.

Gruden has failed in both areas, specifically with coaching up RG, and broadly with the whole offense looking like it never saw a practice field.

I don't know how anyone is defending him at this point.
Funny how we didn't hear Gruden rip McCoy a new one after that shit show yesterday.
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Funny how we didn't hear Gruden rip McCoy a new one after that shit show yesterday.
I didn't think of that, yeah what the hell?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/robert...194600165.html


Jesus Mary and Joseph this is just sad. The kid doesn't deserve to be crapped on anymore. He's kept his nose clean. Worked hard to come back from brutal injuries. He's been tough as nails.
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I didn't think of that, yeah what the hell?

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Jesus Mary and Joseph this is just sad. The kid doesn't deserve to be crapped on anymore. He's kept his nose clean. Worked hard to come back from brutal injuries. He's been tough as nails.
It's sad but the dude has had a huge enormous ego until this season. Am I glad to see him alienated? Hell no. But if it means he's gonna shut up and practice and try to up his game, then hell yeah, punt that ball around all by your lonesome. Maybe this is what he needed. Sometimes you've gotta be torn down to be able to be built up higher.
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:21 PM   #12
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It's sad but the dude has had a huge enormous ego until this season. Am I glad to see him alienated? Hell no. But if it means he's gonna shut up and practice and try to up his game, then hell yeah, punt that ball around all by your lonesome. Maybe this is what he needed. Sometimes you've gotta be torn down to be able to be built up higher.
I hope Gruden is being harsh to help him grow up.

I really like Grudens honesty but he has been no where as critical about other players.

During yesterdays postgame press conference, someone asked about the sacks and poor line play and he says the line they played well and some of the sacks are on the QB, the back and TEs.
Well who gets blamed for -6 yards rushing in the second half by Morris? He was hit in the backfield on almost every play. He never singles out Chesters horrendous play.

Hopefully gruden is just trying to knock the kid off his pedestal.

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Funny how we didn't hear Gruden rip McCoy a new one after that shit show yesterday.

But is that from the fact Colt did what he was told to do ,run the Offense as it was to be run ,just got no support from his O line or anyone who was suppose to block .
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:05 PM   #14
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But is that from the fact Colt did what he was told to do ,run the Offense as it was to be run ,just got no support from his O line or anyone who was suppose to block .
He's made his share of mistakes with holding the ball too long, INTs, fumbles, etc., but he hasn't drawn the wrath from Gruden like with RG3.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:23 PM   #15
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He's made his share of mistakes with holding the ball too long, INTs, fumbles, etc., but he hasn't drawn the wrath from Gruden like with RG3.
Handing the ball of to a guy who wasn't there because it was a passing play, handing the ball off the wrong direction. Both McCoy and Griffin don't look much different when it comes to mistakes. Neither guy is very good right now this late in the year guys should know the offense.

That is all coaching
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