NFL Anthem Policy

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Here you go. Explain how this does not smell of racism? You are arguing with others who posted about white privilege, doubting that it is a thing, by pointing out the bad actions of a few black people. As if their actions speak for their race.
If you truly are not racist, and truly do not believe that than i would only suggest that you think carefully about what you say to people who really do not know anything about you other than you are a skins fan and probably a metal head. Lol.
But do not accuse me of playing the race card for no reason.

Maybe you should take your on advice. I'm not the only one on the board of whom you've had these arguments with. You're the common denominator. And once the conversation doesn't go your way, you start calling people racist. It's a weak argument.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Maybe you should take your on advice. I'm not the only one on the board of whom you've had these arguments with. You're the common denominator. And once the conversation doesn't go your way, you start calling people racist. It's a weak argument.

Im sure JR will send u flowers. Lol

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Maybe you should take your on advice. I'm not the only one on the board of whom you've had these arguments with. You're the common denominator. And once the conversation doesn't go your way, you start calling people racist. It's a weak argument.

Two threads. This one and enough is enough. When i see a comment that looks like a rat and smells like a rat i call it a rat. If u dont like it block me. Ignore me. Because it is u that gets so upset they want to smack someone in the face who disagrees with them. Not me.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Two threads. This one and enough is enough. When i see a comment that looks like a rat and smells like a rat i call it a rat. If u dont like it block me. Ignore me. Because it is u that gets so upset they want to smack someone in the face who disagrees with them. Not me.

Why would I want to block you? So you can cowardly call me a racist behind my back? Oh hell no. I want to be able to see you have a melt down. I'm sitting here laughing about it. I know I'm not racist and people who know me know I'm not racist, so why would I care what some piece of shit on an internet forum thinks of me? I'm merely giving a devil's advocate take on this whole subject. I don't really have an emotional attachment like you obviously do. I just approach this through logical eyes. I can't help if you don't have the mental capacity to think outside of the box and have a normal conversation. And I see that the slap across the face comment got to you. Good, I'm glad it did. It shows me that you're looking for a fight, you're not looking for a solution - which means you're part of the problem. You're too busy looking for people to blame that you're too blinded to see that you have fingers pointed right back at yourself. But, go ahead and call people racist and accuse them of having white privilege. See how far that gets ya buddy.

[CRedskinsRule]

When I was in 5th grade one of my best friends (i'm white he's black) had a cross burned in his yard. My dad, whom I love was a racist (still is but he has made strides) - didn't kill me when I introduced him to my first love, that was progress, if my older brother had had a black girlfriend we might not have had him as a poster here.

My junior high was named Roger B Taney. I had no idea who he was. It's now named Thurgood Marshall Middle.

My kids have friends of all races and creeds.

My point isn't that racism doesn't exist, but it's also not something that you flip a switch on and it's gone. I believe that the US today has far more equal access to opportunity regardless of skin color or gender then it did even 20 years ago. I also believe that it is moving in the right direction at a good pace.

That doesn't mean that all oppression or inequality has stopped, but I do believe that it represents the minority of the minority of US citizens.

With all that said, if anyone wants to highlight areas the US can improve, that's a good thing, as long as they are willing to work towards that improvement in a respectful and positive manner.

Long winded, but this is my way of agreeing wholeheartedly with BHA's post a while back.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

When I was in 5th grade one of my best friends (i'm white he's black) had a cross burned in his yard. My dad, whom I love was a racist (still is but he has made strides) - didn't kill me when I introduced him to my first love, that was progress, if my older brother had had a black girlfriend we might not have had him as a poster here.



My junior high was named Roger B Taney. I had no idea who he was. It's now named Thurgood Marshall Middle.



My kids have friends of all races and creeds.



My point isn't that racism doesn't exist, but it's also not something that you flip a switch on and it's gone. I believe that the US today has far more equal access to opportunity regardless of skin color or gender then it did even 20 years ago. I also believe that it is moving in the right direction at a good pace.



That doesn't mean that all oppression or inequality has stopped, but I do believe that it represents the minority of the minority of US citizens.



With all that said, if anyone wants to highlight areas the US can improve, that's a good thing, as long as they are willing to work towards that improvement in a respectful and positive manner.



Long winded, but this is my way of agreeing wholeheartedly with BHA's post a while back.

Well said C-Red. I would just add that the minority’s minority still consists of millions and that is way too much. One is way too much.

[sdskinsfan2001]

White devil, white devil!!

[sdskinsfan2001]

[JPPT1974]

Or that if they do stand how about suspending them a game over on it. Really the NFL dropped the ball over on that. As it should send a message to them.

[KI Skins Fan]

I love our flag, our national anthem, and our pledge of allegiance. To me, they represent the commitment of each and every one of us to stay united as we work toward the ideals expressed in our great founding documents. Again, it represents our ideals as a nation and not necessarily the realities of our daily lives.

It does not offend me that a man would quietly kneel with his head bowed during our anthem to bring our attention to something in our society that he believes is very wrong. I don't consider that to be disrespectful because he is not disrupting the pledge of those around him. I think of it as his calling our attention to his belief that we are falling far short of our ideals in a very serious way that needs our immediate attention as a nation.

More than that, he believes that it is an emergency. He believes that people are being killed because there are still racial barriers in our nation. As united Americans, we need to try to fix our racial problems now as we move closer to realizing our ideals.

[Chico23231]

I love the blow back of Make America Great Again. The left reply has been this entire country is offensive and sux. The pledge, the flag, the star spangle banner, and nationalism in general is under attack.

But this fact remains true, we are the best, most dominant country in the world since the industrial revolution and that is only because of the people who built it. If you want to cry and complain, do so but you know deep down there is no better place in the world but here. Enjoy your day!!!

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I love the blow back of Make America Great Again. The left reply has been this entire country is offensive and sux. The pledge, the flag, the star spangle banner, and nationalism in general is under attack.

But this fact remains true, we are the best, most dominant country in the world since the industrial revolution and that is only because of the people who built it. If you want to cry and complain, do so but you know deep down there is no better place in the world but here. Enjoy your day!!!

Let’s take it a little easy on the “we are best” thing. There are lots of important things we are not best at. Health care, education, condition of infrastructure are among many examples where we are certainly not leaders. As an example, infant mortality rates are the highest in this country of all developed nations, higher even than Cuba, for god’s sake.

So take it a little easier when you pound your chest.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

Let’s take it a little easy on the “we are best” thing. There are lots of important things we are not best at. Health care, education, condition of infrastructure are among many examples where we are certainly not leaders. As an example, infant mortality rates are the highest in this country of all developed nations, higher even than Cuba, for god’s sake.

So take it a little easier when you pound your chest.

I agree with education, which I think has been the most avoided issue in the country for 25 years. But still, higher education we still issue a ton of Student Visas per year for folks who want to come here and study. The cost is insane for higher education.

The infant mortality...I honestly had to look back but clearly remember this stat around 5 years ago because this was a favorite of folks who favor socialized healthcare. The problem with those rankings is the scope/criteria is not consistent in world wide reporting. Cuba isn't a reliable comparison...its Cuba.

I still have us ranked #1 in the world though...woot woot.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I agree with education, which I think has been the most avoided issue in the country for 25 years. But still, higher education we still issue a ton of Student Visas per year for folks who want to come here and study. The cost is insane for higher education.



The infant mortality...I honestly had to look back but clearly remember this stat around 5 years ago because this was a favorite of folks who favor socialized healthcare. The problem with those rankings is the scope/criteria is not consistent in world wide reporting. Cuba isn't a reliable comparison...its Cuba.



I still have us ranked #1 in the world though...woot woot.

You obviously haven’t done much traveling. Lol

[SkinsGuru]

so i'm confused over the whole disrespecting the flag part . . . i've always been under the impression that kneeling or genuflecting to something is one of the highest forms of respect there is . . . so how Kaepernick kneeling with his hand over his heart disrespecting anything? If you go to church and stand when you should be kneeling . . . that is disrespect, not the other way around.