Redskins General 2020 NFL Thread

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Warthog

I think the Redskins could have thrown him some guaranteed money and kept him happy. He was in the same position as Trent, no guaranteed money in his last year of his contract.

Also, as has been said, Gruden and/or Bruce made him promises that he actually believed. I mean is there any agent in the NFL, or this planet, who believed anything that Bruce Allen said?

Another talented player who left largely because of Bruce Allen.


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I'd rather just trade him.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Warthog

I think the Redskins could have thrown him some guaranteed money and kept him happy. He was in the same position as Trent, no guaranteed money in his last year of his contract.

Also, as has been said, Gruden and/or Bruce made him promises that he actually believed. I mean is there any agent in the NFL, or this planet, who believed anything that Bruce Allen said?

Another talented player who left largely because of Bruce Allen.


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Who knows why he left, but when a new coach is on record saying we want players who are all in and he starts by saying new deal or trade me, are we surprised when he gets traded? Not me.

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[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Who knows why he left, but when a new coach is on record saying we want players who are all in and he starts by saying new deal or trade me, are we surprised when he gets traded? Not me.

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He demanded one of two things. He got one of them and now he's still whining. Is there any reason he and his agent couldn't ask for what they really wanted which was more money with a guaranteed amount? Lesson 1: Be careful what you ask for. Ask for exactly what you want and don't confuse the issue.

Also, they could have asked for it in private and not used social media to plead their case. His agent is about as smooth as a cobblestone road. Lesson 2: Be respectful and professional about how you negotiate and don't try to embarrass the other party.

Lesson 3: Be aware of the environment in which you are pursuing your goal. There is a new boss. He is building a team and a new culture. He wants veteran leaders and not malcontents. Plus, he's already been through enough bullshit with Trent Williams and his agent. Don't mess with the man.

Lesson 4: Get a real agent instead of some big mouth bully who thinks he can power his way to get you what you want.

[mooby]

Let's change the subject from assholes who don't wear the uni anymore to a guy who did more in 3 1/2 seasons than Dunbar will ever do.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-breakout-game

Today would've been Sean Taylor's 37th birthday. Happy birthday meast. RIP.

[SunnySide]

Heard on the radio this morning from teh skins beat reporter for the richmond dispatch..

VA has more season ticket holders than MD

Training Camp will be held at the same location as the new stadium, as an added bene to the teams sales pitch to MD, DC and VA localities.

Springfield mall area -- where he thinks it will ultimately be. Thinks everyone wants RFK but its just not possible. As a Marylander, it looks kinda deep into VA, that commute for Montgomery and Frederick County will be brutal .. 495 to 95 then down 95.

Plus VA cops and troopers are the fucking worst when it comes to pulling people over. If you go something like 16 mph over the speed limit, you get a ticket for reckless driving, have to hire one of their "local" attorneys, pay a fine, go to driving school .... they use tickets as fixed income for their budgets.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7781...1702468,15.25z

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Heard on the radio this morning from teh skins beat reporter for the richmond dispatch..

VA has more season ticket holders than MD

Training Camp will be held at the same location as the new stadium, as an added bene to the teams sales pitch to MD, DC and VA localities.

Springfield mall area -- where he thinks it will ultimately be. Thinks everyone wants RFK but its just not possible. As a Marylander, it looks kinda deep into VA, that commute for Montgomery and Frederick County will be brutal .. 495 to 95 then down 95.

Plus VA cops and troopers are the fucking worst when it comes to pulling people over. If you go something like 16 mph over the speed limit, you get a ticket for reckless driving, have to hire one of their "local" attorneys, pay a fine, go to driving school .... they use tickets as fixed income for their budgets.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7781...1702468,15.25z

My girlfriend lives just a couple miles from the Springfield Mall, if they put a new stadium in that area it would be a traffic nightmare getting in and out. That area is jammed up enough as it is.

You are right about the police here, 11 over can get you reckless in a 70. They also write tickets for chicken crap stuff other cops won't. I got an expired inspection sticker ticket from a county sheriff. I was trying to find myself on the court docket so I could pay it ASAP and forget about it. I decided to start counting up all the cases by officers names, it was easy to estimate many of them were writing 20-30 tickets a day. They were also throwing the book at people. There were a lot of tickets with 4-5 infractions on them. I knew plenty of cops from many generations back when I was in Cali, common practice depending on the perp's attitude was to just write for the most serious offense and knock it down a notch. Not the guys here, I saw one guy got reckless for 81 in a 70, plus expired inspection sticker, with cracked windshield and improperly installed child seat.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

My girlfriend lives just a couple miles from the Springfield Mall, if they put a new stadium in that area it would be a traffic nightmare getting in and out. That area is jammed up enough as it is.

Metro - im guessing more than 50% of the fans will take it vs driving. You lose that tailgate atmosphere though.

But anything is better than the current fed Ex.

Caps and Nats games are all metro fans and, while its not 70K fans, the metro to caps and nats games have always been easy and quick for me.

VA - surprisingly, one of the few states that gave me a break criminal charge wise .. twice!

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Metro - im guessing more than 50% of the fans will take it vs driving. You lose that tailgate atmosphere though.

But anything is better than the current fed Ex.

Caps and Nats games are all metro fans and, while its not 70K fans, the metro to caps and nats games have always been easy and quick for me.

VA - surprisingly, one of the few states that gave me a break criminal charge wise .. twice!

Aren't you lucky. My girlfriend's two stupid sons got into a bar fight, with each other. One of them just turned 21 and had a few too many. The fight happened when the older brother tried to get the other one to leave as he was starting to cause trouble. The cops actually even piled domestic violence charges on top of everything because they were related. The judge tossed all the charges against the older one out and hit the younger one for drunk in public. Most cops I used to know would have called those guys a cab and said they don't want to hear from them again.

[mooby]

Sunny, I live just south of Springfield on 95.

My conclusion is that if the stadium is going to be in Springfield, the best bet is the site of the current GSA warehouse just south of Springfield Mall. Definitely not far down 95, and within walking distance of Franconia-Springfield metro. It's right off the Beltway in the same way Fedex is.

Secondly, you know I agree with you on plenty, including how much cops and troopers love to write tickets around here (I just passed a speed trap at 4:45 this morning on Route 1, luckily he sits in the same spot every time so I know better than to speed there). But you do not get a ticket for reckless for going 16 over. My last ticket (admittedly in 2010) was for going 56 in a 35, and the Fairfax County officer told me he could charge me for reckless since it was 20 over but since it was next to Five Guys HQ in Lorton (not a developed area) he just charged me for ordinary speeding. I still speed every day but I've been able to avoid speeding tickets for 10 years now by just going with the flow of traffic. If they're doing 70-80, so am I. Doing 60, so am I.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by mooby

Sunny, I live just south of Springfield on 95.

My conclusion is that if the stadium is going to be in Springfield, the best bet is the site of the current GSA warehouse just south of Springfield Mall. Definitely not far down 95, and within walking distance of Franconia-Springfield metro. It's right off the Beltway in the same way Fedex is.

Secondly, you know I agree with you on plenty, including how much cops and troopers love to write tickets around here (I just passed a speed trap at 4:45 this morning on Route 1, luckily he sits in the same spot every time so I know better than to speed there). But you do not get a ticket for reckless for going 16 over. My last ticket (admittedly in 2010) was for going 56 in a 35, and the Fairfax County officer told me he could charge me for reckless since it was 20 over but since it was next to Five Guys HQ in Lorton (not a developed area) he just charged me for ordinary speeding. I still speed every day but I've been able to avoid speeding tickets for 10 years now by just going with the flow of traffic. If they're doing 70-80, so am I. Doing 60, so am I.

1. Im sure Ive driven by that area on 95 a million times but dont remember it. A google view shows lots of bars, restaurants, etc and the metro right there.

from the time of crossing American Legion bridge to springfield, how long do you think it would be drive wise?


2. my girlfriend apparently was doing 86 in a 70, and she was told everything over 80 is reckless. she had to hire a local attorney ($250), pay a fine and court costs of close to $300, driving school was $60 for a day seminar.

[Number44]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

1. Im sure Ive driven by that area on 95 a million times but dont remember it. A google view shows lots of bars, restaurants, etc and the metro right there.

from the time of crossing American Legion bridge to springfield, how long do you think it would be drive wise?


2. my girlfriend apparently was doing 86 in a 70, and she was told everything over 80 is reckless. she had to hire a local attorney ($250), pay a fine and court costs of close to $300, driving school was $60 for a day seminar.

Three days.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

1. Im sure Ive driven by that area on 95 a million times but dont remember it. A google view shows lots of bars, restaurants, etc and the metro right there.

from the time of crossing American Legion bridge to springfield, how long do you think it would be drive wise?


2. my girlfriend apparently was doing 86 in a 70, and she was told everything over 80 is reckless. she had to hire a local attorney ($250), pay a fine and court costs of close to $300, driving school was $60 for a day seminar.

Depends on traffic, during rush hour that could be 1-1.5hr. Not gonna sugarcoat it, the springfield interchange sees 250k vehicles a day according to VDOT. Metro would def. soak up a lot of people who don't want to deal with the traffic. Danny would be wise to do what the Nats did and create something similar to the bullpen next to it where people can pregame all day. Of course the consumer would get ripped off because you're paying ballpark prices for pregame beers. Should be right up Danny's alley though. My beef with the GSA space is it seems small once you factor in parking/etc. A lot of people would lose out on tailgating at the car if Danny built parking garages.

Also duh, there's literally a sign everywhere coming into VA stating anything over 80 is reckless. My one reckless ticket (got it when I was 19, doing 90/60) just came off my record a year ago. I had to pay $480, judge didn't cut me any breaks, lesson learned. Nowadays I don't do anything faster than 80, even then my sweet spot is right at or above 75. You're playing with fire if you choose to go above 80 on any interstate highway in VA.

[SFREDSKIN]

Either this guy or Thad Moss will be our TE next year.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/4/2/2...s-answer-at-te

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Either this guy or Thad Moss will be our TE next year.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/4/2/2...s-answer-at-te

Check out Cole Kmet of Notre Dame and Harrison Bryant of Florida Atlantic. They are also good prospects, IMO. I read somewhere that the Skins were interested in Kmet.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Either this guy or Thad Moss will be our TE next year.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/4/2/2...s-answer-at-te

I really like Moss. He reminds me of Evan Engram. May not have the ideal size but is athletic and has great hands. Perfect 3rd round pick.