The Gibbs Hypocrisy!

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

No shit it's a discussion forum. But all I see is back and forth about the same subject. Move on. Let's focus on beating the Cowboys. Why don't you go to extreme skins since you know so much about it. Stop whining while you're at it.

look, you're whining about other people whining. If you don't want to read it, DON'T, but please don't be offensive just because you have nothing better to do.

[firstdown]

I do not buy into the theory that Gibbs is trying to save himself from picking up Brunell. First Gibbs did not negotiate his contract the front office and Snyder did. I do not think Gibbs would bring down a team just because of the money spent on Brunell. 42 mill is a drop in the basket for Snyder and the money he has wasted on picks. Gibbs might be a little embarrassed over Brunell and what he was paid but I do not think he would jeopardies the Skins. What you are saying is that he would put in a loosing QB to make his picking Brunell look better. That would just be adding insult to injury and make you look even worse.

[MTK]

Simmer down folks, I am the webmaster I do have the authority to tell you where to go!

Please keep things civil.

[ladyfan06]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Simmer down folks, I am the webmaster I do have the authority to tell you where to go!

Please keep things civil.

I am very civilized and also very opinionated as is my counterpart- Illdefined.
Trust me this is just a forum not something that is going to be in tomorrow's Washington Post with headlines.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by ladyfan06

I am very civilized and also very opinionated as is my counterpart- Illdefined.

great, then lets hear opinions and not me too's about how stupid it is for other people to give their opinions.

[ladyfan06]

Originally Posted by That Guy

great, then lets hear opinions and not me too's about how stupid it is for other people to give their opinions.

WHO SAID IT WAS STUPID? IF YOU CAN READ I SAID "EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION" AND BECAUSE MINE IS NOT COMPARABLE TO YOURS, SO WHAT..WE CAN THINK WHAT WE WANT TO THINK, NEITHER OF US IS THE COACH OF THE WASHINGTON TEAM.

[Redskins_P]

What I want to know is what do you get out of arguiing over the same thing over and over again? It's not going to change anything. It seems like you're just looking to argue, not discuss. YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING OUT OF IT!!!!!!


I'm done with this thread. My apologies Matty.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

What I want to know is what do you get out of arguiing over the same thing over and over again? It's not going to change anything. It seems like you're just looking to argue, not discuss. YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING OUT OF IT!!!!!!


I'm done with this thread. My apologies Matty.

meanwhile you argue about arguing, whine about whining and still haven't added anything useful to the discussion for 5 posts...

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by That Guy

meanwhile you argue about arguing, whine about whining and still haven't added anything useful to the discussion for 5 posts...

Damn you're taking this pretty personal that guy? Did Ramsey take you out on a date or something for you to defend him like that?

I was having a discussion with illdefined not you. So save all your anger for someone else. Stop your whining and take Ramsey's dick out of your ass.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Damn you're taking this pretty personal that guy? Did Ramsey take you out on a date or something for you to defend him like that?

I was having a discussion with illdefined not you. So save all your anger for someone else. Stop your whining and take Ramsey's dick out of your ass.

wow, i'm sorry you such a waste of space... apparently you can't read either, because i havent' been supporting ramsey as much as pointing out all the fallacies people keep breaking out. I don't think we have a great QB here.

But this is a FORUM, if you want to talk to ill and no one else, why don't you PM him instead of immature anal jokes. I'm not angry, but you're trolling, and you're still trolling even after you said you'd stop, and i've seen so much of it this week. I'm sorry you've got such thin skin and are so easily offended that you have to revert to insults so quickly.

I'm not the one that's been bitching about how whiny other people are or telling them that they've got ramsey's dick in their ass or whatever.

again, if you don't want to read it, you don't need to read it.

[SmootSmack]

Ok, enough is enough. I'm locking this thread. Let's all breathe and think twice before we post

[ChounsMan]

Originally Posted by offiss

I know this is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way so I will offer an apology to those who take offense, other than that to bad!

Gibbs states that we can't turn the ball over, and he wont tolerate it, Brunell 2004 9 TO's in 9 games. 2 of which directly lost us 2 games.

Gibbs now states that basically Brunells hamstring was the reason why he was as incompetent as he was last season, [maybe the worst QBing we have ever seen] yet he played his best game of the year 1 week after his supposed injury against dallas, and now we here all about his big time hammy.

Gibbs promises Brunell the starters position and gives him 9 games to play himself out of the starters position, given the fact that Brunell is a very experinced veteran who shouldn't need the same kind of a learning curve as let's say a young QB like Ramsey.

Ramsey is promised the starters job, after 1 early INT in his first regular season game with his new recieving corps he begins to move the ball up and down the field, at which point after 19 minutes Gibbs say's he's seen enough and has to go back to the teachers pet before Ramsey possibly does something to prevent him from getting Brunell back to starters status, so he doesn't look like an absolute incompetent fool for making that deal to get Brunell here in the first place. We cannot gloss over the fact that Gibbs cost his employer 42 million dollars, couple that with a system back like Portis for another 50 mil. that sure would motivate me to try and force a square peg through a round hole, imagine having to tell your employer you just cost them almost 100 mil and it's not working. And so long as Ramsey starts, thats what's being said.

Gibbs makes the move, which is probably the first I can remember a QB who is moving the ball, and if not for a lousy call would have just directed a TD drive, yanked, usually a QB is lifted because he can't move the ball, [unless your last name is Brunell] but the switch is made AFTER 1 QUARTER OF THE FIRST GAME OF THE SEASON, then to watch Brunell in almost 3 quarters of play muster up 3 field goals, and 70 yards of passing, and say this is my starter.

Somewhere Bobby Beathard is shaking his head.

Lets not kid ourselves here, Gibbs is not set with either QB, so why not just start the rookie, that's where your leading this thread to.

Brunell looked better in preseason then Ramsey & that's no b/s. Ramsey has a gun of an arm, but touch is not something he's been blessed with.

Campbell is certainly better in this stage then both Ramsey & Brunell, but given the track record of Gibbs he won't start the rook. So that leaves with 2 options. 1. to stay with Ramsey to whom it's obvious Gibbs has lost confidence in, or 2. start Brunell & hope he can play with anything close to what he use to have.

Regardless, I like Brunell's arm on fade routes.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by ChounsMan

Campbell is certainly better in this stage then both Ramsey & Brunell

Based on what?

[ChounsMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Based on what?

Pure ability Matty. Several scouts have said Cambell can make all the toughest throws that most QB's struggle with.

The kids got great touch on his passes. Reminds me of Aikmen in his rookie season, but with better size.

[SkinDallas]

offiss

Gunslinger............



You are so far up Ramsey's butt it is sick. The guy is a turnover machine, that might I add had 11 interceptions last year to Brunell’s 6. Let’s stop treating this guy like a rookie...remember he has started 31 NFL games now. To me that’s about 2 full seasons no matter how you break it up. Trust me I really wanted to like this guy too, but it is time to let go.



He are some other shocking stats about our (former) star QB.....

30 interceptions in 31 games......you might as well count on 1 a game

26 fumbles in 31 games....thats close to 1 a game

A passer rating of 70.....that’s not going to get you to the playoffs

and the list goes on and on.



Let’s face it, we are all blessed to have Gibbs back and I think that he has proved that he has more football savvy then all of us combined. He can see these guys day in and day out. I know that he is making the right choice here.



Mark looked great this preseason moving in the pocket as he used to do. I will bet any amount of money that a lot of you are going to be shocked with his performances on this upcoming Dallas game. If we manage the clock with our running game and #2 Defense after week one we will have no problems taking this one.



Mark may not be the one to mount a major come back for you but he will keep you in the game and not turn it over like Mr. Ramsey. You watch and see....