Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Did the Cowboys have a valid alternative to Tony Romo this year that could lead them to the playoffs? And somehow they're 13-3. There are always going to be more qbs that come along. We got Cousins in the 4th round. Everyone acts like Cousins is the last good qb that will ever be found in nfl history and we have to keep him forever no matter the cost or how bad he has continuously choked in big games to this point.

Oh, so your strategy is to wait for lightning to strike, which is what happened with Dak. Other than that, you have no discernible plan for the QB position other than to hope that fate takes a hand.

How long are you willing to wait to be a Super Bowl contender? Seriously, how long are you willing to wait?

In your opinion, are we dealing with a window of opportunity here before we lose players like Williams, Norman, and Kerrigan or not?

Are you aware that Kirk Cousins already holds numerous Redskins franchise records even though he has only been the starter for two seasons? Don't you think he can continue to improve?

In truth, the Redskins made the decision to pay more money for Kirk than they needed to by delaying their decision sign him to a long-term contract last season. They could have had a good deal for the next few seasons but they wanted more proof. NFL QB salaries go up significantly each and every season, so now they'll have to pay more if they still want him.

I think the Redskins need Kirk. I also think they know it but still, somehow, they think they're in the driver's seat in the negotiations with Kirk and his agent. Up to now, Kirk and his agent have been nice. I'll tell you how Kirk can get the long term deal he wants from some team. He just simply needs to inform the Redskins that if he cannot come to an agreement with them on a long term deal, then he will not sign a Franchise Tag agreement with them and he will instead sit out the 2017 season. Then we'll all find out Kirk's real NFL value.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Oh, so your strategy is to wait for lightning to strike, which is what happened with Dak. Other than that, you have no discernible plan for the QB position other than to hope that fate takes a hand.

How long are you willing to wait to be a Super Bowl contender? Seriously, how long are you willing to wait?

In your opinion, are we dealing with a window of opportunity here before we lose players like Williams, Norman, and Kerrigan or not?

Are you aware that Kirk Cousins already holds numerous Redskins franchise records even though he has only been the starter for two seasons? Don't you think he can continue to improve?

In truth, the Redskins made the decision to pay more money for Kirk than they needed to by delaying their decision sign him to a long-term contract last season. They could have had a good deal for the next few seasons but they wanted more proof. NFL QB salaries go up significantly each and every season, so now they'll have to pay more if they still want him.

I think the Redskins need Kirk. I also think they know it but still, somehow, they think they're in the driver's seat in the negotiations with Kirk and his agent. Up to now, Kirk and his agent have been nice. I'll tell you how Kirk can get the long term deal he wants from some team. He just simply needs to inform the Redskins that if he cannot come to an agreement with them on a long term deal, then he will not sign a Franchise Tag agreement with them and he will instead sit out the 2017 season. Then we'll all find out Kirk's real NFL value.

My strategy is to set a certain amount you're willing to pay and then if Cousins isn't even close to that then moving on to other options. I don't think you just cut him a check for any amount he wants. I don't want the team to be held hostage by Cousins. There is no guarantee he will take us to the Super Bowl either. I don't fear having to draft/trade/sign another QB if we can use the extra money to add players at other positions while we figure out who is our best choice. With or without Kirk I don't see us winning it all next year. I think we're at least 2 years away. So that gives us 2 years to find a replacement if we can't agree to contract with Kirk.

[MTK]

If anyone knows what it's like to suffer through bad QB play it should be us.

Yet some seem willing to walk away from a guy who's put up some pretty big numbers the last 2 seasons and is just entering his prime. Very strange.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

If anyone knows what it's like to suffer through bad QB play it should be us.

Yet some seem willing to walk away from a guy who's put up some pretty big numbers the last 2 seasons and is just entering his prime. Very strange.

It's not walking away scott free its setting a reasonable price and if he doesnt want to meet it or at the very least be close to it, moving on to other options. We talked about this previously. I personally only think he's worth 20 million, I could grit my teethe and bear 22 million, but anymore than that he's being drastically over paid based on his performance.

At what price do you think we shouldn't sign him? Or do you think even if it's 25 million, you'd still say sign him?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

It's not walking away scott free its setting a reasonable price and if he doesnt want to meet it or at the very least be close to it, moving on to other options. We talked about this previously. I personally only think he's worth 20 million, I could grit my teethe and bear 22 million, but anymore than that he's being drastically over paid based on his performance.



At what price do you think we shouldn't sign him? Or do you think even if it's 25 million, you'd still say sign him?

22-23 range seems appropriate but I won't be surprised if it's closer to 25. Ultimately though how the deal is structured and what the guaranteed money is the only thing that matters. They can make the deal look as pretty as they want on paper.

[warriorzpath]

My solution's the best in my opinion- Dan Snyder, Bruce Allen and whoever currently has something against Cousins- need to check their ego and just pay the man to a long term deal.

It's what's best for the Redskins. And in the meantime, if you want you can actively pursue a replacement. Companies in other industries do this all the time. It's smart business.

[warriorzpath]

And if you find a replacement, trade him. If you don't, keep him.

[sdskinsfan2001]

At the end of the day, I want our team to win. If that means me being wrong about Cousins and we do end up paying him a kings ransom and it works out, so be it. I don't envy SM on this decision.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

At the end of the day, I want our team to win. If that means me being wrong about Cousins and we do end up paying him a kings ransom and it works out, so be it. I don't envy SM on this decision.

That's the beauty of my solution- you cover yourself and are good at the most important position either way.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

That's the beauty of my solution- you cover yourself and are good at the most important position either way.

This beautiful solution that you keep alluding to ... what exactly is it?
Best I can tell you want to sign him to a long term deal. Ok. Than you want to go get a replacement in the meantime and trade Cousins if the replacement is a better option?
Break it down for me so I can figure out what makes your plan the best.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

This beautiful solution that you keep alluding to ... what exactly is it?
Best I can tell you want to sign him to a long term deal. Ok. Than you want to go get a replacement in the meantime and trade Cousins if the replacement is a better option?
Break it down for me so I can figure out what makes your plan the best.

dude...why?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

dude...why?

Lol. For my own sanity. Sorry. If he really has some solution to our problems that I just haven't honed in on I need to know.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by punch it in

This beautiful solution that you keep alluding to ... what exactly is it?
Best I can tell you want to sign him to a long term deal. Ok. Than you want to go get a replacement in the meantime and trade Cousins if the replacement is a better option?
Break it down for me so I can figure out what makes your plan the best.

I swear to god!

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by punch it in

This beautiful solution that you keep alluding to ... what exactly is it?
Best I can tell you want to sign him to a long term deal. Ok. Than you want to go get a replacement in the meantime and trade Cousins if the replacement is a better option?
Break it down for me so I can figure out what makes your plan the best.

Do you want me to start with the ABCs or the Birds and the Bees?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Do you want me to start with the ABCs or the Birds and the Bees?

No please. My bad. I get ya.