WFT's Off-Season Thread

[MTK]

I guess we know why we've been collecting tackles

[skinsfaninok]

Not sure I understand the Moses move. I thought possible next year. He’s not making a ton of $$ and Washington is already well under the salary cap. Let’s be clear though - once the “find a trade or we will release you” is out there, he’s not coming back.

JP

[SunnySide]

If they just release him .... i just dont understand. Its like our FO thinks they have to be 15M under the cap every year.

This is big news.

[MTK]

Hard to imagine someone wouldn't want him, we could even pick up half his salary to sweeten the deal. Wonder what we could get, maybe a 5th at best?

[sdskinsfan2001]

I like our OLine depth. I'll like it a lot less after moving on from him.

Looks like Leno and Lucas will both start. Cosmi as swing tackle. Hopefully Charles can get training at tackle and guard.

I'll reserve judgment until after we see what compensation we get and what we use the extra money on.

[SunnySide]

Moses had a 80.6 PFF grade last year, played well when asked to go over to the LT for a bit and put together a healthy season.

I personally dont think Moses (30) is going to age well but figured he was a lock for this season at least.

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Moses had a 80.6 PFF grade last year, played well when asked to go over to the LT for a bit and put together a healthy season.

I personally dont think Moses (30) is going to age well but figured he was a lock for this season at least.

Last year he had a better year...but let's not all forget how abhorrent his penalties were for pretty much his entire career. His play wasn't stellar most of the time, either.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

Last year he had a better year...but let's not all forget how abhorrent his penalties were for pretty much his entire career. His play wasn't stellar most of the time, either.

Agree with all that but he did have a good year in play and staying healthy. Losing Moses inst the end of the world but he was a B- type player last year on a reasonable contract.

I wouldnt mind a nastier run blocker on the right side.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

Last year he had a better year...but let's not all forget how abhorrent his penalties were for pretty much his entire career. His play wasn't stellar most of the time, either.

Valid point. I assumed that his play improved because of the different coaches and offense system, but that could not be the case. This is where I need to remind myself to trust the coaches - if they think they can replace Moses with Cosmi or whichever other tackle on the roster then so be it.

[GridIron26]

This is a surprising move and I don't like it.

[CRedskinsRule]

Jon Allen is kinda like Kerrigan was. Respected, great locker room guy, competent and effective. Not someone fans see as a critical piece though.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Jon Allen is kinda like Kerrigan was. Respected, great locker room guy, competent and effective. Not someone fans see as a critical piece though.

Who cares what fans think of Jon Allen's value to the team? I don't care. I do care what RR and his staff think about his value and I trust them to make well thought-out decisions about player contracts.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Who cares what fans think of Jon Allen's value to the team? I don't care. I do care what RR and his staff think about his value and I trust them to make well thought-out decisions about player contracts.

I was referring to comments here and in general about fans view of Allen. Of course when it comes to the team RR and staff will make the value decisions but there will be fans on this board and elsewhere that will comment based on their own perception. And then, on this board we will discuss that perception. That is kinda what this forum is about...

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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Jon Allen is kinda like Kerrigan was. Respected, great locker room guy, competent and effective. Not someone fans see as a critical piece though.

Im a fan and see him as extremely critical. Are we suddenly so good after a 7-9 record that we can shed starting tackles on both side of the line - Allen and Moses- and not miss a beat? I mean let the year play out before the coaching staff and FO thinks that they are all time greats and can win with anyone for Gods sake. Not implying you think that just sayin pump the breaks on we have Vince Lombardi and Bobby Beathard in the house. Allen and Moses are critical this year.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Im a fan and see him as extremely critical. Are we suddenly so good after a 7-9 record that we can shed starting tackles on both side of the line - Allen and Moses- and not miss a beat? I mean let the year play out before the coaching staff and FO thinks that they are all time greats and can win with anyone for Gods sake. Not implying you think that just sayin pump the breaks on we have Vince Lombardi and Bobby Beathard in the house. Allen and Moses are critical this year.

Allen isnt going anywhere, my point i was trying to say, but clearly not clearly, is only that fans undervalue the talent we have. So you heard fans bitch about Kerrigan not showing up but he is our all time sack leader. Fans will say Allen is just a guy but his value to the coaches he is much more than that.



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