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Living Legend
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
I find it amazing that a large mass of people, at Mexico's southern border, somehow is the US' responsibility.
These people have a country, a homeland, and right now, Mexico is not letting them pass. But we will hear horror stories of how the Republicans are separating kids and families, or some other bogus media narrative designed to impact this upcoming election. The democrats and media will use any emotional/historical lie to get power, and I hope that the voters see through their bs. |
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Gamebreaker
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
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From a Land Down Under
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Location: toms river, nj
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When is Enough ,Enough?
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Your posts remind me of Bizzaro Superman.
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Hail Raiser
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” Trump: fuck off |
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From a Land Down Under
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
Also I love how an American citizen was just murdered by terrorists, and Saudi Arabia is getting a pass because they are dumping money into Trump and Kushners businesses to gain favor with them. Once again money trumps justice. Imagine if it was a Mexican gang member that murdered him? Than tough guy Trump would be up in arms. How does this happen and Trumpers are ok with it?
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Warpath Hall of Fame
Join Date: Mar 2009
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The broad stroke of “just an American citizen “ and throwing in a Mexican hypothetical....you really have no clue what’s going on and your just nodding your head to the propaganda being spewed. Shit, lets just get to the end of the narrative you want, trump had this guy killed. |
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Hug Anne Spyder
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Just for clarification, is there anyone here who does not believe MBS had a Saudi citizen hacked to death because he spoke up against Saudi Arabia? Is there anyone here who believes Kashoggi deserved to be hacked to death for saying Saudi citizens deserve a free press? Is there anyone here who isn't sure MBS is responsible despite the public identification of his crew travelling to the consullate? Is there anyone here who believes the currently official Saudi story that a fight got out of hand? Is there anyone here who believes Trump won't hold MBS responsible because we have enormous incentives as a country to not piss them off? Is there anyone here who believes this won't be ancient history as soon as the next scandal drops? If you have a sarcastic reply to this post fuck right off. |
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From a Land Down Under
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How much coincidence has to exist around the same guy before you start to think it may not be coincidence? Holy effing obliviousness. And no the outcome im pointing to is not trump had this guy killed, but classic rightist move to try and stretch the narrative to such extremes that it all seems crazy. What im getting at is that as long as you are somehow making his wallet fatter he will do his best to ignore the fact that you just killed that guy. And stop the shit about canceling summits like either side really cares C Red. As if that shows that he is against killing American citizens and than acting like “who me”? |
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MVP
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: lancaster,pa
Age: 64
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
nice post mooby. chico, youre up
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Warpath Hall of Fame
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
Is there anyone here believes he was an American citizen?
The narratives being pushed are interesting. We had a president before who allowed genocide, the slaughter of tens of thousands, allowed terrorist organization to form and dig in who then attacked Americans and inspired terrorists attacks here at home and in Europe in the same region of the world...he did nothing. Liberals supported his inaction...and were ok with genocide and being attacked by terrorists. They seemed more worried about people getting mad at Muslims. Now suddenly the saudis kill one of their own...and now they are triggered. Yeah, I’m appalled and it’s terrible but I just don’t understand the anger at the president? How is he responsible? |
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Living Legend
Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 58
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Thus trump will ensure russian domination of the world forever and putin will buy a trump hotel in exchange. Can't believe you dont understand that chico. |
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Hug Anne Spyder
Join Date: Mar 2005
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We know Kashoggi's story by now, he was a Saudi citizen who moved to the US after SA silenced him for speaking up against them. Only people saying he was a US citizen are ill-informed. Do you know why this is important? 15 of 19. That's the number of 9/11 hijackers from Saudi Arabia. How many repercussions did SA face for their support of Al-Qaeda again? We literally went to 2 unnecessary wars because of those attacks. Meanwhile they faced NO GODDAMN PUNISHMENT for their roles because we need them. 3000 Americans dead and their families are told the country most responsible can't be held accountable. The US stepping back on this reaffirms that Saudi Arabia can enter a foreign country and brutally murder anyone and will face no repercussions from the one nation that can actually hold them accountable. It tells them they have the freedom to do whatever they want because of our reliance on them. But once again, money is more important than human life. But who's kidding who here, even if the US as a country didn't have a fantastic business relationship with SA Trump certainly does so he would never do anything to rock that boat. |
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Warpath Hall of Fame
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Mooby, we’ve been working with SA for a longtime. And no trump business deals aren’t pulling the strings. Come’on man. But I’m really surprised this was the one thing that finally caused you go off when it comes to recent Middle East events. Let’s see: isis, genocide, American beheadings, countless garbage Muslims doing countless garbage things, Sharia law, state sponsors of terror doing terrorists things, attacks on this country and inspired attacks in this country, horrific European attacks, etc. But this was the thing that set you off? |
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From a Land Down Under
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Like Mooby said fuck off with your sarcastic response. For fuck sake he agreed that there was a fucking rogue murderer responsible! He said it! I heard it! It is not fake news! He is clearly clearly doing everything in his power to downplay what the Saudis did! If this were Obamas response to the same thing you nutjob conservative right wing uber patriots would be shouting MUSLIM PRESIDENT from the high heavens! Just for once admit that his response and actions to this murder was soft. If it were a Mexican gang member it would be WW3. But the fuckin Saudi investor who is currying favor by staying at his property and buying more weapons from us than anyone in the world gets the benefit of the doubt when there is no fucking doubt! Remove heads from asses guys. Please. For fucks sake. Wake the fuck up. It’s ok to admit you were wrong. Promise nobody is going to make you eat crow. |
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Warpath Hall of Fame
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
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This is the official response from the Obama adminstration when multiple us citizens were killed in Benghazi. Susan rice got on all the Sunday morning shows and blamed it on a YouTube video: |
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