2011 NFL Draft

[Terpfan76]

Jay Cutler's career completion % in college was 57.2%, his win/loss 11-33. He may not be an All-Pro, but he's pretty good and was in a similar situation at Vandy as Locker in Washington talent wise.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Terpfan76

Jay Cutler's career completion % in college was 57.2%, his win/loss 11-33. He may not be an All-Pro, but he's pretty good and was in a similar situation at Vandy as Locker in Washington talent wise.

Shanny drafted Cutler. Watch out for Locker at #10!

[SBXVII]

I'm told ESPN mentioned today that the Skins are looking to drop back in the draft, which I think we all have heard, in order to pick up a 3rd round draft pick. Then their rumor was the Skins would take a DL in the 1st, QB Nevada Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd, and a OL in the 3rd.

Did anyone else hear this?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'm told ESPN mentioned today that the Skins are looking to drop back in the draft, which I think we all have heard, in order to pick up a 3rd round draft pick. Then their rumor was the Skins would take a DL in the 1st, QB Nevada Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd, and a OL in the 3rd.

Did anyone else hear this?

What haven't we heard at this point?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'm told ESPN mentioned today that the Skins are looking to drop back in the draft, which I think we all have heard, in order to pick up a 3rd round draft pick. Then their rumor was the Skins would take a DL in the 1st, QB Nevada Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd, and a OL in the 3rd.

Did anyone else hear this?

If there is any substance to that rumour, it would correspond with what has been said about the Skins trading with St. Louis and moving to #14. That would probably yield a third round pick. But I doubt that the Skins would do that and pick a DL. If they want a DL, they could trade down farther, add a second round pick, and still get a solid DL.

I think the Skins would only do the trade with the Rams with the idea of picking a QB at #14. That's because they wouldn't want to go any lower in the first round and risk losing their guy to Miami or Jacksonville. Otherwise, why not try to get a deal in place with NE at #17 (NE would probably take Julio Jones) to pick up a second and a fourth?

The other question in this scenario is: why wouldn't the Skins be worried about Minnesota picking their guy at QB? The answer may be that the Skins have a verbal agreement in place with the Vikings to trade them Donovan McNabb after the draft.

[Chico23231]

I think its absolutely amazing what im reading online that 4-5 QBs could be taking first round vs. the talent pool of QBs. wow

[skinsfaninok]

I guess Kaep would learn from VY

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think its absolutely amazing what im reading online that 4-5 QBs could be taking first round vs. the talent pool of QBs. wow

I think it's more hype than reality. I think we'll see 3 go in the 1st for sure, 4 tops. Newton, Gabbert, Locker, and maybe Ponder near the bottom of the 1st. More likely Ponder goes top of the 2nd.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think it's more hype than reality. I think we'll see 3 go in the 1st for sure, 4 tops. Newton, Gabbert, Locker, and maybe Ponder near the bottom of the 1st. More likely Ponder goes top of the 2nd.

Heard Dalton could be draft 1 round too...

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think its absolutely amazing what im reading online that 4-5 QBs could be taking first round vs. the talent pool of QBs. wow

Exactly, and honestly what happens if teams see their first choice of QB go early and possibly their second? You don't think they don't have a 3rd QB on their list for those teams really needing a QB?

For some reason I just get the feeling several will be gone possibly prior to our pick at #10. Panthers, Bills, Bengals, 49ers, Cardinals, all could use one and I have this bad feeling there is going to be a feeding frenzy all of a sudden. Maybe won't happen but I could see teams trying to get their QB situation settled early since there really is no clear cut winner sitting out front. Then there is the rumor the Vikes and Miami are trying to move up to get one.

Could all be bluff but I could actually see several go in the top 10.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think its absolutely amazing what im reading online that 4-5 QBs could be taking first round vs. the talent pool of QBs. wow

It's because of no free agency/player trades possible. With those, we would already have Vince Young, Minnesota would have Kevin Kolb, Arizona would have Carson Palmer, Titans would have Kyle Orton, Miami would have Donovan McNabb, etc (disclaimer: the preceding are all hypotheticals but you get my point)

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's because of no free agency/player trades possible. With those, we would already have Vince Young, Minnesota would have Kevin Kolb, Arizona would have Carson Palmer, Titans would have Kyle Orton, Miami would have Donovan McNabb, etc (disclaimer: the preceding are all hypotheticals but you get my point)

Good point. But from everything I've heard, teams aren't changing their approach to the draft based on the lack of free agency. At least that's what they are saying, we'll see if the draft actually reflects that.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Good point. But from everything I've heard, teams aren't changing their approach to the draft based on the lack of free agency. At least that's what they are saying, we'll see if the draft actually reflects that.

Yeah I think that's BS. How can they not change their approach?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah I think that's BS. How can they not change their approach?

I think it makes some sense. I don't think teams will want to reach for a need. Especially at QB given the uncertainty of the CBA right now. There's just not going to be enough time to get a rookie ready to play right away. There's going to be free agency at some point, and when there is I think teams may end up overpaying or will be more aggressive than usual to get their guys.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's because of no free agency/player trades possible. With those, we would already have Vince Young, Minnesota would have Kevin Kolb, Arizona would have Carson Palmer, Titans would have Kyle Orton, Miami would have Donovan McNabb, etc (disclaimer: the preceding are all hypotheticals but you get my point)

Yeah, thats kinda what I thought...means some serious talent could slide.