2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Maybe not. I mean there are several factors here.

1- Ryan is much younger and less experienced than Biden. If Ryan acted the same way I would think he has very little footing for such a reaction. I think Biden, on the other hand, does.

2 - my mind has already been made up prior to this debate, based on the issues and the respective party platforms. I'm sure that has an impact on my thoughts. Additionally I would say that's exactly what Biden needed to do. Energize supporters after a poor Obama debate performance. I wouldn't be surprised if the polls push back over to the dems side since there will be more energized dems. Same thing happened in the polls due to gops voters last week.

3 - civil and professional debates would be great but the general population doesn't care. It's a combination of lack of education/awareness, a two party system full of bickering even G.W. warned us about, lack of campaign finance reform and out of control dollars in the game (via Super PACs and lobbyists). This isnt changing anytime soon, unless there is a popular referendum or uprising. So I'm fine with the realistic candidate, which I most support, finding a way to win.

Thank you for answering the question respectfully, honestly and thoroughly. Had Ryan done so last night, my opinion of him would be higher. Had Biden done so last night, my opinion of him would be higher.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

They want to have their cake, eat it, and then have yours too. Unbelievable. They can go suck a dck and choke on it.

But the GOP is getting the "angry" vote

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

They want to have their cake, eat it, and then have yours too. Unbelievable. They can go suck a dck and choke on it.

Speaking from experience?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I guess no one has ever seen Biden debate? No one is familiar with his "style"? So people are surprised by this? Guess you dont pay close enough attention then

Biden won the debate, slight advantage over Ryan mainly do to his experience. No surprises last night.

I don't think Biden was like this at all against Palin 4 years ago. Was he?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by saden1

They want to have their cake, eat it, and then have yours too. Unbelievable. They can go suck a dck and choke on it.

Aside from your being wrong (as usual) on substance.... Biden took even more of his opponent's time than Obama did, and made himself look like an out-of-touch angry old geezer in the process.....

Dude, as a fellow redskins fan, please grow up. Your posts are becoming more and more juvenile.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I will also say this (and yes I know it was not a court room setting) -- if an attorney behaved in the manner Biden did while presenting a case at trial - rolling his eyes, smirking, laughing when not speaking and interrupting opposing counsel & the judge, he would have been found in contempt so fast it wouldn't be funny.

If you can't advocate your position without being an ass, then either you are truly an ass or your position is just not that strong.

They were'nt in court so that doesn't matter ,if Biden sits backs and does not act aggressively the republicans would be all over him for being old and slow.He's agressive so now he's rude,truth is he did a good job and republicans won't admit it.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I don't think Biden was like this at all against Palin 4 years ago. Was he?

He did'nt have to be ,Palin is stupid...Ryan is not,just young

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Aside from your being wrong (as usual) on substance.... Biden took even more of his opponent's time than Obama did, and made himself look like an out-of-touch angry old geezer in the process.....
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LOL wrong,that's the one thing he didn't look like.Obama should have been more like Biden against Mittens.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I don't think Biden was like this at all against Palin 4 years ago. Was he?

no, he was much more half speed. those theatrics wouldnt been as effective and he woulda come off like an asshole.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

But the GOP is getting the "angry" vote

Well, they sure aren't getting the Latino, Black, Women, Jewish,and Muslim vote so I suppose they are.

Hopefully the Catholics come through with some anger and send Lord Obama packing.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I dunno guys, if Romney is considered the winner again, I might change my vote.

[NC_Skins]

I keep hearing "communist" and "socialist" thrown around with Obama with none of these people actually knowing what they really mean. Let's be honest, the only reason they are using these terms is because of the social backlash they would get from using their preferred choice of nigger to describe Obama. **** these simple minded people. I've never seen a President during my life get the amount of hate this man has. While he hasn't been the best, he doesn't deserve the type of hate being thrown at him.

A friend posted this on facebook and it about sums it up when it comes to people calling Obama a socialist/communist.

http://i.imgur.com/RMhXu.png

[Gtothearry]

It's amazing how some people can be so blinded by their respective party lines.

To say Ryan or Biden dominated that debate is crazy. I personally would call the debate a draw. Both had their positives and negatives with each topic.

How is it disrespectful for Romney to interrupt Obama but it's ok for Biden to do so with Ryan? This works both ways though.

I hope people can put aside their party obligations and look at the issues without bias.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Thank you for answering the question respectfully, honestly and thoroughly. Had Ryan done so last night, my opinion of him would be higher. Had Biden done so last night, my opinion of him would be higher.

No prob.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

He did'nt have to be ,Palin is stupid...Ryan is not,just young

Ryan is a better candidate. But his policies to date, and perhaps his views, are as radical as Palin's. If not more.