We traded for T.J. Duckett?

RedskinPete · 08-23-2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I don't care what happens if we have to give up a 1st and 3rd for TJ then it is a BAD DEAL. There is no reasonable scenario in which a 1st and 3rd is acceptable.

As someone said earlier; a 1st and 3rd gets you a back like D. Davis at least.

Something went very wrong if we don't finish higher then Denver!!!

Beemnseven · 08-23-2006, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RedskinPete

Something went very wrong if we don't finish higher then Denver!!!

I don't know about that. Denver's expectations are as high as anyone's in the AFC. They were at home for the championship game last year.

It'll be tough to match Denver's record this year -- especially considering the divisions each play in. Denver has Oakland and the Chargers to beat up on, and they stand a good chance to sweep the Chiefs.

If the 1st and 3rd deal is true, and we don't finish better than the Broncos, then this deal was absurd.

Monkeydad · 08-23-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RedskinPete

Something went very wrong if we don't finish higher then Denver!!!

I think we'll beat them in the Super Bowl.

amorentz · 08-23-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I don't care what happens if we have to give up a 1st and 3rd for TJ then it is a BAD DEAL. There is no reasonable scenario in which a 1st and 3rd is acceptable.

As someone said earlier; a 1st and 3rd gets you a back like D. Davis at least.

Yeeeesh, I agree that a 1 and a 3 is WAAAY too much, who who wants tiny Dom Davis and his balky knee? At least Duckett brings something different to the table...

FRPLG · 08-23-2006, 01:18 AM

After readng a bit more it seems we wont be trading 2 picks. It sounds like we'd send one pick (the 3rd) ans potentially swap a pick in another round depending on record. If we are better we swap 4ths and if they are better then we swap 1sts. I guess it justs equals out some value in the trade.

RedskinPete · 08-23-2006, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

After readng a bit more it seems we wont be trading 2 picks. It sounds like we'd send one pick (the 3rd) ans potentially swap a pick in another round depending on record. If we are better we swap 4ths and if they are better then we swap 1sts. I guess it justs equals out some value in the trade.

I just read the Rocky Mt News and you are dead right. We now must finish ahead of Denver this season or they get our third pick and we trade #1's. If we finish better then Denver they get our #3 pick and our #4 in 08 because we don't have one in 07 right?

That Guy · 08-23-2006, 01:27 AM

rock is ssuper cheap for quite a few years (new contract), betts is going to waNt more money. duckett i believe is on his rookie deal till 2007, but i'm not sure if the skins are giving him a new one.

he's got a great stiff arm and he's surprisingly fast, but i eriously doubt we'll beat denver's record. We're playing in the NFC East and they've probably got a better (top 5 in BOTH O an D the last couple years, or close to it).

RedskinPete · 08-23-2006, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

rock is ssuper cheap for quite a few years (new contract), betts is going to waNt more money. duckett i believe is on his rookie deal till 2007, but i'm not sure if the skins are giving him a new one.

he's got a great stiff arm and he's surprisingly fast, but i eriously doubt we'll beat denver's record. We're playing in the NFC East and they've probably got a better (top 5 in BOTH O an D the last couple years, or close to it).

if Betts leaves after this season we get nothing right? But Duckett we would get a pick if he moved on right?

Tahoe Skin · 08-23-2006, 01:30 AM

Just curious: Does anyone know if Duckett plays ST as a wedge buster?

That Guy · 08-23-2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tahoe Skin

Just curious: Does anyone know if Duckett plays ST as a wedge buster?

sellers does, and duckett is quite a bit faster... it'd be interesting to see.

Tahoe Skin · 08-23-2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

sellers does, and duckett is quite a bit faster... it'd be interesting to see.

That's why I asked. Seeing sellers and duckett side by side as wedgebusters would be totally awesome!

huntz · 08-23-2006, 03:38 AM

This deal DOEs make sense. INSURANCE for Portis and the running game, and look at his numbers PEOPLE!!! Come on! What's not to like???A 3rd rounder next year??? I like Betts, but they coulf get a 3rd rounder for him, if it comes to that.

RobH4413 · 08-23-2006, 04:02 AM

I can't say our team "This Year" is hurt by the acquisition of Duckett, However I fear the down the road implications. Our habit of trading away picks is discouraging, considering the high level of coaching ability.

What's this "first rounder if our record is worse than denver?" B-S. In no way is Duckett worth a first rounder... especially with our coaching staff's talent.

Im concerned, but alas... I must always trust in Gibbs.

Oakland Red · 08-23-2006, 05:18 AM

On the surface, you love to see T.J. Duckett on the team; he compliments Portis for a great change of pace, can stand alone if Portis is out for any time, he gives you great short yardage ability, has real speed and size. I can see some special things this year with him in the backfield.

However, what is the price? Quite possibly a first round and a third round draft choice next year? For a player that may well sign for another team before next Denver makes those choices. His contract ends at the conclusion of this season.

How about this headline - May 2007: "DUCKETT TO DENVER" Redskin backup T.J. Duckett signed with Denver this offseason after one year in DC.

We gave up too much for T.J. Duckett in my opinion.

Certainly we will be looking for good trades for Betts, because he will also be gone after this season.

724Skinsfan · 08-23-2006, 08:43 AM

I'm riding the fence on this one. If Duckett wants to be the featured back then he's not staying here longer than this year. Comparing Betts and Duckett: Betts is a bit shiftier than Duckett but Duckett runs with WAY more power. We definitely should see a better 3 and 1 conversion as well as goal line improvement.

{Sigh} I really liked Betts but I guess he hasn't shown enough ability to play a prominent role on our a championship team.

If he's traded, who's our new KR?

Sellars must not have convinced the coaching staff that he can handle the ball very well. I doubt he'll be too upset, though.

Lastly, if Duckett gets the goal line carries, which he should, then I need to rethink my selection of Portis in fantasy football. The shoulder injury was enough for me to pause now I may not consider him unless I have a #7 or #8 pick.

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08-23-2006, 01:18 AM	#5
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett? After readng a bit more it seems we wont be trading 2 picks. It sounds like we'd send one pick (the 3rd) ans potentially swap a pick in another round depending on record. If we are better we swap 4ths and if they are better then we swap 1sts. I guess it justs equals out some value in the trade.

08-23-2006, 01:30 AM	#9
Tahoe Skin Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 100	Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett? Just curious: Does anyone know if Duckett plays ST as a wedge buster?

08-23-2006, 03:38 AM	#12
huntz Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 69 Posts: 311	Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett? This deal DOEs make sense. INSURANCE for Portis and the running game, and look at his numbers PEOPLE!!! Come on! What's not to like???A 3rd rounder next year??? I like Betts, but they coulf get a 3rd rounder for him, if it comes to that.

08-23-2006, 04:02 AM	#13
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 41 Posts: 2,638	Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett? I can't say our team "This Year" is hurt by the acquisition of Duckett, However I fear the down the road implications. Our habit of trading away picks is discouraging, considering the high level of coaching ability. What's this "first rounder if our record is worse than denver?" B-S. In no way is Duckett worth a first rounder... especially with our coaching staff's talent. Im concerned, but alas... I must always trust in Gibbs. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

08-23-2006, 01:27 AM	#7
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett? rock is ssuper cheap for quite a few years (new contract), betts is going to waNt more money. duckett i believe is on his rookie deal till 2007, but i'm not sure if the skins are giving him a new one. he's got a great stiff arm and he's surprisingly fast, but i eriously doubt we'll beat denver's record. We're playing in the NFC East and they've probably got a better (top 5 in BOTH O an D the last couple years, or close to it).

08-23-2006, 05:18 AM	#14
Oakland Red Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, Calif. Posts: 268	Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett? On the surface, you love to see T.J. Duckett on the team; he compliments Portis for a great change of pace, can stand alone if Portis is out for any time, he gives you great short yardage ability, has real speed and size. I can see some special things this year with him in the backfield. However, what is the price? Quite possibly a first round and a third round draft choice next year? For a player that may well sign for another team before next Denver makes those choices. His contract ends at the conclusion of this season. How about this headline - May 2007: "DUCKETT TO DENVER" Redskin backup T.J. Duckett signed with Denver this offseason after one year in DC. We gave up too much for T.J. Duckett in my opinion. Certainly we will be looking for good trades for Betts, because he will also be gone after this season.

08-23-2006, 08:43 AM	#15
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett? I'm riding the fence on this one. If Duckett wants to be the featured back then he's not staying here longer than this year. Comparing Betts and Duckett: Betts is a bit shiftier than Duckett but Duckett runs with WAY more power. We definitely should see a better 3 and 1 conversion as well as goal line improvement. {Sigh} I really liked Betts but I guess he hasn't shown enough ability to play a prominent role on our a championship team. If he's traded, who's our new KR? Sellars must not have convinced the coaching staff that he can handle the ball very well. I doubt he'll be too upset, though. Lastly, if Duckett gets the goal line carries, which he should, then I need to rethink my selection of Portis in fantasy football. The shoulder injury was enough for me to pause now I may not consider him unless I have a #7 or #8 pick. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

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