WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by That Guy

wow, #56, i'm sure glad you'll never run anything related to football.

look at the success rate of 1st round picks to 6th round picks. If you're so dense as to not see the difference in success as a whole, I can't help you, and there won't be many that can.

as for exception, guess what? he WAS NUMBER THREE IN THE LEAGUE in tackles, so he's probably more likely to be good than bad. what's you alternative? sign back lavar and move him to MLB? yeah, that's f'ing hilarious, good luck with that.

YOU DO NOT count on trade downs. yeah the skins seem to be able to swing trades on draft day just fine, but unless you're blind, you'd notice that they tend to be the ones getting ripped off and trading UP, not down.

seriously, which NFL are you watching?

you need to judge players individually, you can't just say, "well they signed bruce smith and he was old and didn't work out, so we should never sign an old guy ever again". that's retarded. at the time those old guys were signed, plenty of people knew they weren't going to be so hot, AND, btw, remember last offseason? you know, when we signed all those YOUNG guys? yeah, how'd that work out?

that is real mature calling someone dense. I never questioned the success rate of a 1st round player vs a 6th round player. Obviously 1st rounders,2nd rounders are "predicted" to have better careers, 6th and 7th rounders are lucky to make the roster. My point was, they guys have never played in the NFL and nothing is 100% definate, that this player is going to be a stud. grow up and stop insulting people because they dont agree with you. AGAIN..and AGAIN..and AGAIN... LET ME SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME....I WILL TYPE IT BIG SO MAYBE YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER. I NEVER HAVE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT FLETCHER BEING A BAD PLAYER. IN FACT I HAVE SAID HE IS A GOOD PLAYER. IF WE SIGN HIM GOOD, IF WE DONT GOOD! I AM NOT HATING ON THE GUY. IF THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE, SIGN HIM. I HAVE NEVER SAID NOT TO. I SAID EXHAUST ALL OTHER RESOURCES, IF THERE ARE NONE, THEN SIGN HIM. HELL I WILL BUY HIS JERSEY IF IT WILL MAKE YOU HAPPY. 2ND, NO I WOULD NOT SIGN LAVAR BACK AND PLAY HIM IN THE MIDDLE. NO I WOULD NOT SIGN LAVAR BACK AT ALL PROBABLY. HE IS NOT GOING TO BE HEALTHY, SO DONT WASTE THE MONEY.

Now, of the old players that have seemed to not work out. Bruce, Sanders, Carrier, George, wright. I am sure there may be a few here and there over the last 8 years I have left off, but again my point : we have not had much luck with signing aging veterans. Hell, not much luck at signing anyone lately. Which, goes back to keeping our picks and develping young players.

OUT!
Dude, seriously. grow up and stop insulting people. it is people like you that make these threads not that enjoyable. people enjoy debating their opinions and philosophies. When people start the name calling and how stupid blah blah blah, it really takes the fun out of it. right or wrong, its an opinion. the mods should take notice of people insulting other and put them on notice or something. it is really not needed here. If any of us here had any capability of running a team, we would be there. so dont put more weight on your ideas than any one elses. Your ideas go as far in the organization as anyone elses.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Ok Nate Celments Makes Sense For The Skins. Londer Fletcher Knows The System Yes But He Is 32 Maybe For A Year Or 2 But No 7 Year 40 Million Dollar Deal No More Mark Brunell Fiascos. And What's Wrong With Signing Lance Briggs Or Adailus Thomas And Moving Them To Mlb And Moving Marshall To Weak Side Linebacker I Mean Look At What The Rams Did For Will Witherspoon And That Turned Out. Ok But London Fletcher No Man And What Clemson Games Are Everyone Else Talking About When They Say That Gaines Adams Isn't Good I Saw All The Clemson Games And The Guy Is A Jason Taylor Clone Jamaal Anderson Had One Good Season He Only Had 3 Sacks The Year Before This And Just Seems To Much Like A One Season Wonder To Me And Alan Branch Would Be A Great Pick To Me It Is Between Gaines Adams And Alan Branch.

Jamaal Anderson Seems Too Much Like A One Season Wonder For Me

[MTK]

Guys, once and for all it's not an easy thing to switch an OLB to MLB. They are not interchangeable positions. Sure we have seen guys make the transition, but don't be fooled into thinking it's an easy thing to do and all linebackers can make the switch successfully.

If I had to pick between Fletcher or moving a guy out of position, I'd take Fletcher 100% of the time.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

not to critize what he said but as i recall adalius thomas rotated at every position on the ravens defense this season and i know that is not an easy thing to do

[MTK]

Yes, Thomas can play MLB.

He's a very versatile player that will attact alot of attention in free agency.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

So Instead Of Flecther Why Not Go After Thomas He Is Faster Stronger And Bigger 270 Pounds To Be Exact And On Top Of That He Can Rush The Passer Drop Into Coverage And He Is Way Taller Than London Fletcher

[MTK]

The problem is Thomas is going to command alot more money than Fletcher.

Thomas is in his prime and will be looking for a payday, Fletcher while still very productive is past his prime and will come cheaper.

Perhaps the most important part of the equation is Fletcher knows this defense having played for Williams in Buffalo.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

while that is true i am getting that feeling i got when we drafted carlos rogers over shawn merriman

[jdlea]

I've been advocating the pursuit of London Fletcher since the middle of last season (the first Giants game) when I realized that Marshall is garbage. I think that Flet would come relatively cheap and flourish in Williams' system. He's also a great leader and I think he understands he'd be a stopgap for the Skins. That could free up the team to go out and make a late round pick (if they ever scout a decent one) at MLB and let Fletcher tutor him so that he can eventually take over.

That said, I'd love to see Adalius Thomas end up here, I just think that's a pipe dream. I don't know that the Skins have a shot at him, but stranger things always happen in the offseason in Washington.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

i understand that london fletcher knows the system BUT ONCE AGAIN i am feeling the mike barrow thing all over again

[MTK]

Unless you have a crystal ball there was nothing to indicate that Barrow was going to get hurt the way he did. He was an absolute rock prior to coming here.

Injuries happen, it was shit luck with Barrow. That doesn't mean the same thing is going to happen with Fletcher.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

i understand that london fletcher knows the system BUT ONCE AGAIN i am feeling the mike barrow thing all over again

I understand why people would be opposed to picking up Fletcher (namely, he's old). But, there is a big difference between Barrow and Fletcher - Fletcher is NOT coming off of a devastating knee injury. So, other than the fact that both Barrow and Fletcher are old and play MLB, I don't see the similarity or any reason to expect that Fletcher's career is over.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

i am not saying that his career is over i just have a feeling that the redskins are going to overpay him like they do other free agents example: adam archuleta made him the richest safety in nfl history and andre carter 6 years 30 million and only 6 sacks i dont have a real problem with fletcher i just said that i am getting the feeling of barrow cause the redskins luck is just like that

[MTK]

If it's about the money A. Thomas is going to be much more expensive than Fletcher, and he's only a couple of years younger.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

you do have a point there i just dont want a mark brunell tpye contract going to fletcher